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ben62670
ben62670 Posts: 15,969
Well I found some Straight Wire Star Quad cables on the cheap. $15 shipped! I am getting these because so many newbies ask about wires. This just may be the ticket into good wires for the non believer, or the guy who is open minded enough to try them out. The insulation is foamed for low dielectric loss. I have my own cables that I make, but for $15 terminated I think you can't go wrong with these. The only question about the wires is the termination quality. I don't believe you need to spend a ton to get good wires. They use a wire that is just like the Canary S4. I have heard the EncoreII's that Venom was nice enough to bring over, and let me audition. Those were about the best wires I have heard so far. I would like to try them against my solid silver core Teflon insulated IC's one day.

http://www.avhifi.com/asp/product.asp?recorprod=1&product=65&cat=23&ph=&keywords=&recor=1&SearchFor=&PT_ID=1

http://www.straightwire.com/

I know they are only level ones, but seem to have the wire of the level twos.

Edit: $15 each cable.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited July 2007
    I tried Straightwires' Chorus some years ago, I wasn't impressed.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited July 2007
    The corous is a totally different wire. I heard the star quad wires, and they sound very nice:) About the same level as PBJ's but different... smoother.
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    Thanks
    Ben
  • SLOCOOKN
    SLOCOOKN Posts: 704
    edited July 2007
    ben62670 wrote: »
    Well I found some Straight Wire Star Quad cables on the cheap. $15 shipped! I am getting these because so many newbies ask about wires. This just may be the ticket into good wires for the non believer, or the guy who is open minded enough to try them out. The insulation is foamed for low dielectric loss. I have my own cables that I make, but for $15 terminated I think you can't go wrong with these. The only question about the wires is the termination quality. I don't believe you need to spend a ton to get good wires. They use a wire that is just like the Canary S4. I have heard the EncoreII's that Venom was nice enough to bring over, and let me audition. Those were about the best wires I have heard so far. I would like to try them against my solid silver core Teflon insulated IC's one day.

    http://www.avhifi.com/asp/product.asp?recorprod=1&product=65&cat=23&ph=&keywords=&recor=1&SearchFor=&PT_ID=1

    http://www.straightwire.com/

    I know they are only level ones, but seem to have the wire of the level twos.

    I have a pair of Encore II I would trade for a pair of you silver cables.:) ..let me know.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited July 2007
    ben62670 wrote: »
    Well I found some Straight Wire Star Quad cables on the cheap. $15 shipped! I am getting these because so many newbies ask about wires. This just may be the ticket into good wires for the non believer, or the guy who is open minded enough to try them out. The insulation is foamed for low dielectric loss. I have my own cables that I make, but for $15 terminated I think you can't go wrong with these. The only question about the wires is the termination quality. I don't believe you need to spend a ton to get good wires. They use a wire that is just like the Canary S4. I have heard the EncoreII's that Venom was nice enough to bring over, and let me audition. Those were about the best wires I have heard so far. I would like to try them against my solid silver core Teflon insulated IC's one day.

    http://www.avhifi.com/asp/product.asp?recorprod=1&product=65&cat=23&ph=&keywords=&recor=1&SearchFor=&PT_ID=1

    http://www.straightwire.com/

    I know they are only level ones, but seem to have the wire of the level twos.


    Keep us posted. Where are you finding them for $15 terminated? Linky please :)
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited July 2007
    SLOCOOKN wrote: »
    I have a pair of Encore II I would trade for a pair of you silver cables.:) ..let me know.

    I would be glad to build silver cables for select fellow Polkies. This invitation is extended ONLY to Polk members. No Newbies! Sorry to leave you guys out ,but to many people come and go without contributing. Also it take a LOT of time to braid these things right. If anyone would like to check them out please PM me for details. As one fellow Polkie told me about a deal "does this mean shut up?" answer "with all due respect YES". Also please do not post anything if you have received cables from me without letting me know.

    Thanks Ben
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited July 2007
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Keep us posted. Where are you finding them for $15 terminated? Linky please :)

    http://www.avhifi.com/asp/product.asp?recorprod=1&product=65&cat=23&ph=&keywords=&recor=1&SearchFor=&PT_ID=1
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited July 2007
    ben62670 wrote: »

    I see I was looking at the speaker cables and there were none close to $15 a pair :)
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited July 2007
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I see I was looking at the speaker cables and there were none close to $15 a pair :)

    They have speaker wires there that cost more than every car I have owned except one!
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • SLOCOOKN
    SLOCOOKN Posts: 704
    edited July 2007
    ben62670 wrote: »
    I would be glad to build silver cables for select fellow Polkies. This invitation is extended ONLY to Polk members. No Newbies! Sorry to leave you guys out ,but to many people come and go without contributing. Also it take a LOT of time to braid these things right. If anyone would like to check them out please PM me for details. As one fellow Polkie told me about a deal "does this mean shut up?" answer "with all due respect YES". Also please do not post anything if you have received cables from me without letting me know.

    Thanks Ben

    P.M. me
    :eek: From the bottom it looks like a steep incline, From the top another down hill slope of mine.:mad: But I know the equilibrium's there!:cool: .."Faith No More" :D
    Sony cx985v (for now)
    BBE 482i
    B&K AVP 1030
    Adcom GFA 555 mk 2
    AudioQuest Crystal 2 spk wire
    Nordost RCA
    SDA 3.1 tl RD0 tweets
    Belkin pf60
    Carver TFM 55x
    Signal Analog 2 RCA
    AudioQuestType 4
    VMPS Original Tall Boy (Mega Woofers soon)
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited August 2007
    Well I have received my Straight Wire IC today. It uses the star quad configuration, and the RCA's are definitely HQ. I have some Nuetrik's that I have been using, and the grip is not solid at all. These have a split center pin, and very solid Outer jacket. I will order a second one now that I have seen the build quality. Impressions will be coming soon. So far build quality is spot on!
    Ben
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    Thanks
    Ben
  • PADZZ
    PADZZ Posts: 83
    edited August 2007
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited August 2007
    OK I did some minor dissection, and have found with the help of another Polkie the same design configuration is the same as the EncoreII's. For $27 a pair SHIPPED. 3 days to my door in factory packing:D
    Ben
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    Thanks
    Ben
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited August 2007
    PBJ's vs brand new(not burnt in) cheap "Straightwire Musicable II" I have one on the left channel, and one on the right. Played some mono vocals with acoustic guitar. Straight wires are slightly cleaner, but still had the sparkling detail of the PBJ's. The RCA's are rock solid. they fit extremely well. I have a second one on the way. For $27 a pair they can't be beat as an entry level cable. I will do some comparisons to my silver wires in a week. My thought s are these would be Ideal between source, and Pre(like SACD). I have single connectors that cost more than a pair of these!

    They are shielded for easy wiring in a bad environment.
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    Thanks
    Ben
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited August 2007
    OK I did some more testing. The Straight wires don't compare. I wasted $30 on this experiment. I may use them temporarily one my SACD outs for rears till I build more Silvers. The Straight wires were pretty nice for vocals, and then I put on some Beastie Boys for some bass. Straights lost out hands down to PBJ's. I ordered more RCA's for my silvers. I have found that is the way to go.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • carpenter
    carpenter Posts: 362
    edited August 2007
    ben62670 wrote: »
    and then I put on some Beastie Boys for some bass.

    You do realize, that because of you I couldn't stop humming "Sabotage" for hours.
    thanks a lot man!
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited August 2007
    B Boys always get me still. My music taste have changed, but B Boys still get some usage on my player!
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited August 2007
    I have one on the left channel, and one on the right.

    How would this work for comparison? I assume the two speakers are in different locations, and therfore have slighty different room response, reflections, etc. Even playing a mono source, I would expect them to sound slightly different even when using the same interconnect.
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited August 2007
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    How would this work for comparison? I assume the two speakers are in different locations, and therfore have slighty different room response, reflections, etc. Even playing a mono source, I would expect them to sound slightly different even when using the same interconnect.

    Yes I totally agree. The differences weren't subtle. Way to obviously different tone. Not even worth doing a listen with different material etc.
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    Ben
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited August 2007
    Might be worth switching the cables between the two sides though. That way you could see if the difference followed the cable, or if it was just room placement.