Odyssey Mono Extremes--Black,Boxes 1800.00 plus shipping

george daniel
george daniel Posts: 12,096
edited October 2007 in For Sale (FS) Classifieds
Purchased from a forum member, Excellent condition,these are the extreme version, Pic's tonight.
JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited July 2007
    Buy from George with confidence....I've bought two amps from him..and these would be in my list, but the last amp I got from him might be my last amp ;)

    What are you working on George???
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited July 2007
    Belles 350 reference.:)
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited July 2007
    So you coming back to the Belles; you'll notice a huge difference between the reference and the base version you had; it will be interesting to hear your thoughts between the 350 ref. and the extremes....



    Bump :)
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited July 2007
    Specs?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,646
    edited July 2007
    Stable to 2 ohms...

    300 watts x1

    180,000 UF per channel

    2 Plithron transformers (18 pounds of power supplies)

    20 year transferable warranty

    120 amps of current +

    Over 800 continuous damping factor

    66 pounds a pop!

    Mine arrive in 1.5-2 weeks! :)

    Sorry to hear you are selling them, but good luck! :)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited July 2007
    Thanks Ricardo and Trey,,I'm keeping the "SE" version.
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited July 2007
    Slew Factor?:D
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,646
    edited July 2007
    Do not know the Slew
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited July 2007
    It's a meaningless figure to anything but an amplifier nerd.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited July 2007
    Me an amp nerd; I think not, well maybe.

    Although when you are bi-amping it is a good spec that will enable you to match the speed of different name brand amps in such a configuration.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited July 2007
    Joe - Anytime you want to bet some money, let me know.

    Anyways....GREAT overbuilt, monster amplifiers!
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited July 2007
    Bet some money on what Mark?
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2007
    As with most amp ratings, they are loose guidlines. Slew rate is measured in milliseconds and it gives one a very general idea of how quick an amplfier can go to peak and back. The impression the rating gives is one amp is faster than the other in reproducing fast passages (dynamic) in music.

    It's mostly a meaningless number becasue the rating's quoted are usually measured in a specific setting which has very little to do with actual real world operating situations.

    Matching slew rates while bi-amping is not neccessary at all, there are other much more important factors to consider. Millisenconds; not sure if I can hear a change in the rise and fall rate of an amp in a couple milliseconds.

    Just my take on it and as always

    YMMV

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,646
    edited July 2007
    Here is what I and everyone else will tell you.

    There is not much the Mono Extremes cant do.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited July 2007
    Good stuff, I didn't know that; thanks H9.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2007
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    Here is what I and everyone else will tell you.

    There is not much the Mono Extremes cant do.

    I think I can 2nd that!! (from what I've read)

    My short list of amp upgrades which will be very soon.

    Pass Labs Aleph 3 or 6
    Odyssey Extreme (stereo version)
    Classe CA101 or CA201
    Forte Model 4 or 6
    Threshold s/300
    Belles 350a Reference
    Monarchy Sm70 pro

    I just have to look into what works best with SDA's and then find a nice used unit for the right price.......sounds simple.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,646
    edited July 2007
    Odyssey is a no brainer for me.

    After dealing with Klaus, you can get a 20 year warranty on used gear.

    Klaus is absolutely insane in everything that he does... LOL

    Just a phenominal company to be involved with!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited July 2007
    H9...

    snag that pair of SM70 Pro monoblocks on the 'Gon for $800 obo. Hell.. it's summer. Low-ball him for poops and giggles. You could easily resale them individually and pocket a bit o' cash at the price they're at.
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited July 2007
    I do not think the Slew Rating is meaningless. Of course if I owned big slow amps I might.

    RT1--Meaningless Audio Nerd.

    ooops sorry for posting as I cannot buy these but do think they really nice, never heard one though.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited July 2007
    Wow! I just realized that this is a For Sale thread and we are all breaking the rules!!!
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited July 2007
    Have fun ,,, besides this is entertaining while I'm at work,, if they don't sell,it's no big deal,,I'm enjoying the back and forth banter ;):)
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2007
    zombie boy 2000 wrote: »
    H9...

    snag that pair of SM70 Pro monoblocks on the 'Gon for $800 obo. Hell.. it's summer. Low-ball him for poops and giggles. You could easily resale them individually and pocket a bit o' cash at the price they're at.

    I guess we did a pretty good job of trashing this FS thread already, I didn't realize it was a FS thread either until now. :o

    My bro just took delivery of (2) brand new Sm70 pro's and a Monarchy NM24 Tube line level pre and tube dac. Just listened to the set-up last night and since he is leaving over the weekend he's going to let me use the NM24 to see if I like it in my system.

    The Sm70's are much smaller than I expected and really sound great run in balanced single ended mono. I'll have to check with C.C. Poon to see if the neg terminals cam be strapped to run with SDA's.

    So far a fantastic sounding set-up. He was amazed at the difference and his system was no slouch before. I'm sold on the set-up if I can run the mono's with SDA's.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited July 2007
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I guess we did a pretty good job of trashing this FS thread already, I didn't realize it was a FS thread either until now. :o
    H9

    Jeez:o I'm sorry George... I kind of lost sight of that myself. FWIW I have the upgraded Khartago and it makes my 88db Tylers sing. I can only imagine what these bad boys would do in anyone's set-up. And I know you've underpriced 'em just like you did your Tylers. Someone's about to get a smoking, smoking deal....

    H9 -- small, but they're like bricks. Heavy lil' buggers that make sweet music. And unbelievably powerful for the rated 35 wpc. Of course, George's monos would obliterate any trace of the Monarchy in a street brawl.
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited July 2007
    No worries ,, have fun,,I am :)
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited July 2007
    George get back to work you slacker...........

    RT1--Slacker extrodinare
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited July 2007
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    I do not think the Slew Rating is meaningless. Of course if I owned big slow amps I might.

    RT1--Meaningless Audio Nerd.


    Fast slew rate is one of the reasons digital amps can sound great.
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited July 2007
    Slew rate is a measurement of the maximum rate of change of an amplifier's output voltage with respect to its input voltage. It's pretty much meaningless in a real world setting (although you can see it on a o-scope with no load attached), it's another 'stat' that solid state amps can have a dick measuring contest over. It's measured in volts per microsecond, by the way.

    I'd put it between THD and Damping, from less important to more. Just as damping factor should really be matched to the speaker in use - not just 'as high a number as possible'. Just as super low THD can be a VERY bad thing, especially if one is introducting a lot of negative feedback into the circuit to get that number down.

    Does slew rate matter? Sure, to a degree. Does it matter in amplifiers? Not so much. It does matter in sources. Op amps for example (vs discrete outputs) are severly limited in slew rate, and there is no way around it. The design - capatictance at high frequencies, and the tiny drive units inside.

    Sometimes, less is more - at the end of the day, it's that word EarlyB loves to hate - Synergy in a system.

    Cheers,
    Russ
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited July 2007
    Well I'm glad I brought it up. as I never had so much info in one place on slew rate (factor).
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,646
    edited July 2007
    And FWIW -

    These amps need their own generators.

    Buy these!!!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited July 2007
    RuSsMaN wrote: »
    Sometimes, less is more - at the end of the day, it's that word EarlyB loves to hate - Synergy in a system.

    No hatin' here. I just think it's another audio term that only has personal meaning. One man's "synergy" is another man's "WTF is that?"
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