Vinyl Making A Comeback?
snow
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Good news for vinyl fans. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2127345,00.html I found this story on another forum but thought I should share this here for all the vinyl **** 
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that is a cool article.. and exactly reflects what is happening here in the US as well. It's for the most part the kids of baby boomers fueling the revival of vinyl. I know there are differences of opinion's on that.. but it's great to see that a format that's for the most part been out of the mainstream consumer public now making a comeback.
Some of my coworkers have never even seen a album before, but they are curious about it.
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Good article. That is one aspect of the resurrection of vinyl that is a surprise to me.
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hearingimpared wrote: »Good article. That is one aspect of the resurrection of vinyl that is a surprise to me.
Not me, I'm ahead of the curve. I got all into 45's last year. REMEMBER CFRIZZ!!!
(crfizz was kind enough to donate all her 45's to my cause).
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There was a big write up in this month's Sound and Vision on TT's and vinyl. There were some sick TT's from V.Y.G.E.R. Their entry model will run ya $7800. I dunno, that $30 CD player sure sounds kick arse too.
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Hopefully it's the younger generations way of telling the recording companies that they no longer want convenience at the cost of compromised sound.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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I didn't care for the Sound and Vision article after reading it again.. nearly all of it was about the turntables.. lower end, mid priced and out of the world price tables... they didn't spend enough time talking about the revival of vinyl IMHO. :mad:PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
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DB, I certainly look back with(mostly)fond memories of the LPs that I played about 25 years ago, but sentimentality shouldn't submerge reality. I've read most of the same stuff on this matter, but the reality is that there's no commercially significant "revival" going on; LPs represent roughly 1/2% of all recordings sold. This is one of many areas where obsolescent technologies continue to have a small but enthusiastic following and may never become totally obsolete, but although looking back it seems remarkable that they were able to even do as good as they did, it shouldn't be ignored that present technology offers far more. The technology used in the LP format simply isn't capable of reproducing the analog waveforms that constitute music with the essentially perfect accuracy to beyond the limits required by humans(20,000Hz and even more)as present digital formats can do.
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....The technology used in the LP format simply isn't capable of reproducing the analog waveforms that constitute music with the essentially perfect accuracy to beyond the limits required by humans(20,000Hz and even more)as present digital formats can do.....
:rolleyes:
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The technology used in the LP format simply isn't capable of reproducing the analog waveforms that constitute music with the essentially perfect accuracy to beyond the limits required by humans(20,000Hz and even more)as present digital formats can do.
We should remember the past, but enjoy the best that the present offers us.
I have to disagree, I think albums can produce music to be reproduced that is nearly identical to digital recorded music. Listen to a clean album, on a decent turntable..it's just as accurate and even more pleasing to the human ear than a digital recording is.
Vinyl will never be back as strong as it was in the hey days of the 60's or 70's. (and earlier too of course). It will never replace any digital format.. it can't. the general population will never embrace older technology again. But you can't just dismiss that fact that for possibly the first time since the album left the market, it's having an impact on people looking for an alternative to CD's/digital music.
Who could have predicted it would happen?
John K, both the past and present can live together. PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
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DB, I certainly look back with(mostly)fond memories of the LPs that I played about 25 years ago, but sentimentality shouldn't submerge reality. I've read most of the same stuff on this matter, but the reality is that there's no commercially significant "revival" going on; LPs represent roughly 1/2% of all recordings sold. This is one of many areas where obsolescent technologies continue to have a small but enthusiastic following and may never become totally obsolete, but although looking back it seems remarkable that they were able to even do as good as they did, it shouldn't be ignored that present technology offers far more. The technology used in the LP format simply isn't capable of reproducing the analog waveforms that constitute music with the essentially perfect accuracy to beyond the limits required by humans(20,000Hz and even more)as present digital formats can do.
We should remember the past, but enjoy the best that the present offers us.
more blah blah blah from the Anti Hi-Fi Audio Insurgent.
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I remember Chuck!:D I hope you are still enjoying them. I'm glad they were able to go to a good home and continue to be used.Not me, I'm ahead of the curve. I got all into 45's last year. REMEMBER CFRIZZ!!!
(crfizz was kind enough to donate all her 45's to my cause).
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My niece is 14 and loves vinyl, she digs the table and most specially the art work she gets, its not about the best listening position and all that jazz for her, she sits next to her little table and spins the records, sings along, looks at the album art, liner notes, gee, sounds very familiar as to what we liked in the 60-70-80's.
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.....reproducing the analog waveforms that constitute music
So funny you mentioned this. I was sitting down just last night enjoying analog waveforms. Whatta rush!:rolleyes:
It's beyond me why you feel the need to quantify a completely subjective experience such as the enjoyment of reproduced music. I've always felt that I was more of a science/math kinda guy but damn, the right hemisphere of your brain must have atrophied years ago.Wristwatch--->Crisco -
reeltrouble1 wrote: »more blah blah blah from the Anti Hi-Fi Audio Insurgent.
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DB, I certainly look back with(mostly)fond memories of the LPs that I played about 25 years ago, but sentimentality shouldn't submerge reality. I've read most of the same stuff on this matter, but the reality is that there's no commercially significant "revival" going on; LPs represent roughly 1/2% of all recordings sold. This is one of many areas where obsolescent technologies continue to have a small but enthusiastic following and may never become totally obsolete, but although looking back it seems remarkable that they were able to even do as good as they did, it shouldn't be ignored that present technology offers far more. The technology used in the LP format simply isn't capable of reproducing the analog waveforms that constitute music with the essentially perfect accuracy to beyond the limits required by humans(20,000Hz and even more)as present digital formats can do.
We should remember the past, but enjoy the best that the present offers us.
John I totally disagree with you! especially your last sentence. Digital formats may do it on paper but certainly don't sound like music or produce the tone of the instruments that an analog front end produces. This is from my experience. I've heard a seriously good high end digital player and it sounded wonderful. . . but not nearly as natural as my analog front end produces the tone of the instruments. Also as far as the 1/2% goes, the president of Atlantic records has a minimum of 10,000 LP made of every album that is made. That number too is on the rise. . . so that 1/2% seems a little low but I could be wrong. -
hearingimpared wrote:.....but not nearly as natural as my analog front end produces the tone of the instruments.
I gotta hear your rig one day H.I.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
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Still love the vinyl, got a penchant for the reel to reel with good NR and expansion. I don't care about sales #'s or or what it's supposed to sound like from a spec page. Just know there were some great recording engineers who worked with plain old analog set-ups that have given us the two channel sound that still holds us captivated to this day.
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Vinyl has been huge in the past 5 years. Most audiophiles have been at least experimenting w vinyl if not switched to it already. CD and SACD are always in the rig, but vinyl is going to be played around with due to its natural sound for a long time.
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Vinyl has been huge in the past 5 years. Most audiophiles have been at least experimenting w vinyl if not switched to it already. CD and SACD are always in the rig, but vinyl is going to be played around with due to its natural sound for a long time.
It is truely growing again by leaps and bounds but I fear it will never get much further than a niche market. I know that the prez of Atlantic records has them producing at least 10,000 LPs of any new or rerelease. That is a pretty good start. -
Niche markets are OK so long as some real musicians keep releasing their stuff on vinyl. Lots of what is out there doesn't deserve to be on vinyl anyway.Vinyl, the final frontier...
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Niche markets are OK so long as some real musicians keep releasing their stuff on vinyl. Lots of what is out there doesn't deserve to be on vinyl anyway.
Yes I know what you mean. The **** here is that the guys who produce some good music like the Red Hot Chili Peppers put their music to LP as compressed as the mp3. . . I have their Stadium Arcadium on LP and it is unlistenable due to the intense compression yet a band like Maroon 5 put their music to LP and it is as dynamic as it can be.
It really was no different vinyl's heyday! I have plenty of recordings by great artists that are compressed dating back to the 70s one that comes to mind immediately is Jethro Tull's "Benefit," horribly compressed.
