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danger boy
danger boy Posts: 15,722
edited July 2007 in The Clubhouse
I sold a Luxman receiver to a friend last week for $80 because he told me he didn't have a Luxman in his collection of gear and had always wanted to try one out.

Well, guess what? Yup.. he is selling it on Ebay.. and of course making twice the profit I sold it to him for.. and it's still climbing with one day left. No doubt he'll make a nice profit from the sale on Ebay..

but what friend does this to another friend?

I know it's his to do whatever he wants to do with it.. i sold it to him. but I also never thought he'd turn around and sell it lickity split like that.. and I did clean it and had it serviced for him.. i could have sold it myself and gotten more for it.. but friends take care of each other still right?

Well he's still my friend, but i'll never sell him another piece of stereo gear. :mad:
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
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    Thats a bit underhanded.Atleast he should have asked you first.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
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    agreed, since he did tell me to my face that he wanted it for his collection. not to flip it and make a profit.

    lesson learned on my part for sure.
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  • polrbehr
    polrbehr Posts: 2,826
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    danger boy wrote: »
    Well, guess what? Yup.. he is selling it on Ebay.. and of course making twice the profit I sold it to him for.. and it's still climbing with one day left. No doubt he'll make a nice profit from the sale on Ebay..

    but what friend does this to another friend?
    Ouch, that was cold.
    danger boy wrote: »
    Well he's still my friend, but i'll never sell him another piece of stereo gear. :mad:

    With friends like that...
    So, are you willing to put forth a little effort or are you happy sitting in your skeptical poo pile?


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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
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    Yeah, that ain't right! I'd stick him with the bill for a nice dinner sometime in the future :)
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
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    With friends like that you don't need enemies!
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  • Refefer
    Refefer Posts: 1,280
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    Effed up, that is all I can say. That's a really backhanded move.
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
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    Just ask him how he is enjoying the receiver about a week after the auction is over. How he answers that question will say a lot.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
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    Be the high bidder....then stiff him.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
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    shack wrote: »
    Be the high bidder....then stiff him.
    Shizelbs wrote: »
    Just ask him how he is enjoying the receiver about a week after the auction is over. How he answers that question will say a lot.
    Two great ideas!:D
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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
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    Face wrote: »
    Two great ideas!:D

    I would do both, just think of it as giving an important life lesson to a "friend".
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
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    shack wrote: »
    Be the high bidder....then stiff him.

    that's evil, but I like it. :p
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
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    shack wrote: »
    Be the high bidder....then stiff him.

    Awesome idea.
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,897
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    Excellent! :D
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,329
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    Ask him a question via ebay....... How much for buy it now price?.... To a friend :D :eek: :D or better yet have everyone that reads this thread ask seller a question about how long he has had this? and why is he selling so quickly? lol.

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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,860
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    Send him an email notifying him of your decision to revoke his "friend" status to that of Asshat...................
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  • BottomFeeder
    BottomFeeder Posts: 1,684
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    I think maybe you just let him know that you've seen the Luxman on ebay and were wondering why he's selling it. That puts the ball in his court to give you an explanation.
    My vote is to give your still friend an opportunity to explain himself. I find that when we just ride in w/guns blazing, seeking revenge or the opportunity to vent our anger, we usually make things worse. & Ignoring it just drives a wedge between you and hurts the friendship. Just asking the guy gives you an opportunity to talk and for him to fess up.
    Then you go from there.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
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    I dunno, I like revenge better. There is NO excuse for that...
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  • ntculenuff
    ntculenuff Posts: 1,146
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    exalted512 wrote: »
    I dunno, I like revenge better. There is NO excuse for that...
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  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,328
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    You can't let this pass without saying something. Tell him that you were suprised and don't appreciate what he's done. Tell him that you thought he would have offered to sell it back to you, before offering it up on eBay. Tell him that's what you would have done for him. If he offers to sell it back, take it. If he offers money from the auction, take it. Let him know your feelings in a friendly, but direct manner. Don't sugar coat the message.
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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
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    Kill him. Sneak in at 3am, and just finish him off... seems like the only logical solution to me ;)
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  • BottomFeeder
    BottomFeeder Posts: 1,684
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    Revenge only makes two people wrong.

    Take the higher road.
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  • dudeinaroom
    dudeinaroom Posts: 3,609
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    BottomFeeder wrote: »
    I think maybe you just let him know that you've seen the Luxman on ebay and were wondering why he's selling it. That puts the ball in his court to give you an explanation.
    My vote is to give your still friend an opportunity to explain himself. I find that when we just ride in w/guns blazing, seeking revenge or the opportunity to vent our anger, we usually make things worse. & Ignoring it just drives a wedge between you and hurts the friendship. Just asking the guy gives you an opportunity to talk and for him to fess up.
    Then you go from there.

    yup that's what I'd do, or maybe revenge, probably this thou
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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
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    If it bugs you, mention it to him. If your friendship doesn't survive this then he's probably just a fairweather friend.

    It would have bugged me. He should have told you he changed his mind and then proceeded to ask you if you wanted them back.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,851
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    shack wrote: »
    Be the high bidder....then stiff him.

    Hehe.......perfect!
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  • Polkitup2
    Polkitup2 Posts: 1,620
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    $177.70 now, not bad

    http://cgi.ebay.com/LUXMAN-R-3055-STEREO-RECEIVER-65-WPC-VERY-NICE_W0QQitemZ290136549668QQihZ019QQcategoryZ50596QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,092
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    That is deplorable. It would make me rexamine the whole friendship. You just don't so that to friend. Maybe a few years down the road after he'd enjoyed it he could put in on e-bay or better yet, give you first rigt of refusal. I like the idea of bidding it up and then stiffing him. Too bad that could come to bite you in the form of negative feedback on your ebay account.

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    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
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    Danger Boy,Past experience has taught me not to put much faith in human nature.it helps keep me from being too disapointed by other peoples actions. sad but true! thanks....WCW III
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
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    Maybe he meant that he did not have any Luxmans in his store and maybe he really did want to try one just to hear it but not keep it. He does have a vintage audio store so he may have just assumed that you knew he was going to re-sell it?

    I would just ask him. Usually these things are a mix up. Especially if he is a friend.
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
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    BottomFeeder wrote: »
    I think maybe you just let him know that you've seen the Luxman on ebay and were wondering why he's selling it. That puts the ball in his court to give you an explanation.
    My vote is to give your still friend an opportunity to explain himself. I find that when we just ride in w/guns blazing, seeking revenge or the opportunity to vent our anger, we usually make things worse. & Ignoring it just drives a wedge between you and hurts the friendship. Just asking the guy gives you an opportunity to talk and for him to fess up.
    Then you go from there.

    This and Wingnuts approach are solid. You need to find out what his story is.

    Maybe he will give you some money?

    Maybe he needs some fast cash?

    Maybe he hated the unit?

    And maybe he is an ****?

    Find out.

    Take the high road.
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  • Polk user
    Polk user Posts: 311
    edited July 2007
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    What your "friend" did is inexcusable. It's something a 10 year old does to another 10 year old and as a parent if my kid did it I would force him to return it to you "gratis" and apologize. He would lose the $80 and hopefully learn a lesson on how you treat people.

    When an adult does this, it says to me he is a pr!#k. He is not your friend. If I had an ebay account I would bid $250 and raise it if need be(hint to anyone who has a fleabay account they can burn). I might even report the unit stolen and tell the police you found it listed on Ebay. He is not your friend so don't worry about burning bridges.
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