roth audio

JimBRICK
JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
edited July 2007 in 2 Channel Audio
http://www.rothaudio.co.uk/


Anyone have any knowledge of them? The have and integrated tube amp with an ipod dock on it
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited July 2007
    Here's the competition...

    http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SLMC30
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  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited July 2007
    2 watts shanling 10 watts roth, what speakers could you possibly run off these
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited July 2007
    JimBRICK wrote: »
    2 watts shanling 10 watts roth, what speakers could you possibly run off these


    Very efficient ones -- low-mid 90's sensitivity and higher. Full range drivers. No problem.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited July 2007
    I am a little confused as to why you would take a I-pod and hook it up to one of these units. Not trying to dog you, or anybody for that matter, but isn't this the same thing as trying to make chicken soup out of chicken ****?
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • Gaara
    Gaara Posts: 2,415
    edited July 2007
    Actually alot of people have been replacing cd players with ipods on other forums such as Audio Circle. Red Wine Audio also does mods to these called the Imod which are supposed to be phenomenal.

    Apperently the 4th and 5th generation use Wolfson DACs, plus all Ipods are battery operated for darker backgrounds.

    I personally have had very good experiences using a Ipod as a source.
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  • Refefer
    Refefer Posts: 1,280
    edited July 2007
    And, don't forget the convenience of having hundreds of albums at your finger tips.
    Lovin that music year after year.

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2007
    Gaara wrote: »
    Actually alot of people have been replacing cd players with ipods on other forums such as Audio Circle. Red Wine Audio also does mods to these called the Imod which are supposed to be phenomenal.

    Apperently the 4th and 5th generation use Wolfson DACs, plus all Ipods are battery operated for darker backgrounds.

    I personally have had very good experiences using a Ipod as a source.

    Not a fan of Wolfson dac's or DSD decoding or Ipods in an audiophile setting.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited July 2007
    The music server is a hot topic on alot of forums and seems like the next logical step. I'm looking forward to it.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited July 2007
    It seems as if all things convenient have a way of taxing the almighty end result.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • I-SIG
    I-SIG Posts: 2,243
    edited July 2007
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Not a fan of Wolfson dac's or DSD decoding or Ipods in an audiophile setting.

    To each his own, but I have certainly been swayed (thanks again, Polk Paul) to the point that the Ipod may not be the "end all; be all" but that it could and should be an integral part of a well-rounded upper-mid-fi and hi-fi system especially if ALE format is used for your recordings. I used to believe that there was no way an Ipod could keep up with a decent digital source, i.e. Rotel & Bel Canto, but after reading Polk Paul's article and taking the plunge I'm convinced there is very serious merit in having an Ipod available as a source.

    On that note, I have to say my experience with the Ipod as a source has been very positive thus far. I've noticed that on the earbuds that come with the Ipod that songs are actually a little bit clearer, but obviously not as listenable as on the SRS's. The clarity can't make up for impact, dynamics, scale, and presentation. I imagine that some room treatments and a crossover upgrade on the SRS's will make this a very moot point

    Wes
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2007
    I'm sure the IPod and other similar portables are very good at what they are designed to do but they have no place in a reference rig. Convienence and portability are unmatched and I suppose using an outboard dac would best. I just don't understand why when some of us go to great lenghts to tweak our systems with proper cables, anti vibration devices, isolation devices, etc., then use an IPod as a source.

    It's like building a great suspension on a race car and then putting Farm & Fleet tires on it.

    This is just one person's opinion

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2007
    Sona wrote: »
    Hook up your iPod or MP3 player with a Y cable (1/8 stereo to RCA) and have a listen. I've connected my Dell DJ this way and it sounds fine. I also use a stock Squeezebox as a music server and love it. Heiney, isn't it your brother who built a PC to use as a digital music server? Does he just get his tunes to his rig in a more Audiophile Approved ™ way?

    Yep, but he routes it thru a $1300 outboard dac. It makes a diff. I'm not opposed to the units as a transport, but the internal dac leaves a lot to be desired in both the Ipod and Squeezebox (IMHO).
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,963
    edited July 2007
    Not a big fan of the I-pod generation.But will add that most things sound better thru earbuds and better yet,headphones.They take the room out of the equation and give a more 3-d soundfield.I for one don't enjoy walking around with crap attached to my ears all the time.You miss out on all the other things life has to offer.
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  • Yashu
    Yashu Posts: 772
    edited July 2007
    Some of you may be forgetting that the ipod can play lossless files like .WAV and Apple Lossless. It is not just an MP3 Player.

    I say that when I absolutely hate the damn thing and would never buy one in a million years, but not because of the sound... but the interface is just horrid and itunes has to be about the worst digital music software anyone could ever come up with. Why the hell can't you just plug the f'ing thing in and copy your files over like it was just an external HD!?!? Why do you even *need* special software to begin with? Ok, maybe I am ranting, but then again, I am a minimalist.

    I think the ipod playing lossless format sounds OK, I didn't mind it (the sound) when I helped a friend get one setup. Those docks, being tubed, probably take a bit of the edge off.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2007
    Yashu wrote: »
    Some of you may be forgetting that the ipod can play lossless files like .WAV and Apple Lossless. It is not just an MP3 Player.

    Didn't forget that at all. Apple lossless is not truely 100% lossless as they say. It's close but not quite. Again no problem per se with the units but the internal components are no where near audiophile.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited July 2007
    treitz3 wrote: »
    but isn't this the same thing as trying to make chicken soup out of chicken ****?

    Best one I've read for awhile :D
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • I-SIG
    I-SIG Posts: 2,243
    edited July 2007
    tonyb wrote: »
    Not a big fan of the I-pod generation.But will add that most things sound better thru earbuds and better yet,headphones.They take the room out of the equation and give a more 3-d soundfield.I for one don't enjoy walking around with crap attached to my ears all the time.You miss out on all the other things life has to offer.

    The image provided by earbuds and headphones is so artificial it's almost annoying.

    Also, can someone please enlighten me as to how to connect my Ipod to Bel Canto DAC? H9 and others have talked about it, but no one has shown me a definitive method of doing it. The guy at the Ipod store understood what I wanted, but was clueless as to whether a product out there did it.

    Wes
    Link: http://polkarmy.com/forums

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