New Primaluna Tube CDP

RuSsMaN
RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
edited July 2007 in 2 Channel Audio
http://www.upscaleaudio.com/infopage.asp?page=26&extra=1

"The PrimaLuna ProLogue Eight

Revolutions are born in bold ideas. In true PrimaLuna fashion, the stunning ProLogue Eight CD Player will revolutionize the audio industry by introducing the world’s first tube-based data clocking device: the SuperTubeClock.

By incorporating a low-noise mini-triode vacuum tube into the digital clock, this boldly conceived design provides vastly superior resolution, detail retrieval, improved clarity, increased definition and detail from top to bottom.

The ProLogue Eight is a true dual-mono design, right down to the dual vacuum tube rectification - another first in a CD player. The power supply is adapted from the award winning ProLogue Three
preamp. High quality resistors, mosfets, and Solen capacitors yield superior transient response, detail, and channel separation."



Just introduced, thought I'd post - since tube cdp's seem to be all the rage at Club Polk. Someone buy it, and tell me how it sounds.

Cheers,
Russ
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,554
    edited July 2007
    I saw that a few weeks ago......I'll wait for the reviews.
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited July 2007
    If the reviews are like anything else they make (or anything new these days for that matter), I'm sure they will be glowing.

    I can't remember the last BAD review I read, in print anyway.

    I dig the layout, the thin-width design - matches up well with their other components - your Primaluna preamp and cdp could sit on the same shelf (in some racks). At the pricepoint, the Jolida is the only stock (sans mod) tube cdp I'd own (so far) - and that's from cold hard listening, nothing more.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited July 2007
    Whats the price point on that beast?
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited July 2007
    No idea, saw the ad in Sterophile, and went searching. Upscale didn't list a price - but most of their gear hovers around $1400 - $1600 per unit.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,554
    edited July 2007
    I can't remember the last BAD review I read, in print anyway.

    True, but sometimes one can read between the lines.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • fredv
    fredv Posts: 923
    edited July 2007
    I am really curious on what is "SuperTjoebClock". Ought to find out more info about that. Everything else isn't very different but looks like a pretty good power supply, though.

    -fredv-
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited July 2007
    Is that a Freudian slip? Tell me more on what the guys at AH! are doing, I'm out of the loop, if there is one.
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  • fredv
    fredv Posts: 923
    edited July 2007
    I asked my experience ee friend what exactly is:

    The SuperTjoebClock. An ultra-low jitter clocking device replaces the crystal with a vacuum tube. Yields incredible detail retrieval and dynamics throughout the entire audio spectrum.

    and his reply was:
    There is a crystal in there, it's the blue wrapped thing.

    Looks like there's a coil of wire under the shrink wrap, acting as an
    "oven", keeping it at a constant temprature for stabilty (35C. is
    typical). The tube triode doesn't suffer from thermal changes in the
    junction the way a SS device does, making for an extremely stable clock.

    This actually very old technology - on the order of 50 years old, just
    used in a different way. It was invented about the same time as
    single-sideband (SSB) communications, where even a 10Hz drift in
    operating frequency was noticeable on the receiving end.

    So, I guess the statement "replaces the crystal with a vacuum tube" is a little misleading. I wonder why not simply use a Tentlabs clock instead.

    -fredv-
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited July 2007
    Why do you keep saying Tjoeb?
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited July 2007
    That thing is ugly.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited July 2007
    F1nut wrote: »
    True, but sometimes one can read between the lines.

    Absolutely. Reviewers now just write 'less glowing' reviews for crap and use a lot of double talk to smooth out a bad review and gloss over the negatives to give anything a positive spin.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited July 2007
    RuSsMaN wrote: »
    Why do you keep saying Tjoeb?


    Because in reading the description, it says this CDP has a SuperTjoebclock in it.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited July 2007
    HTrookie wrote: »
    That thing is ugly.

    Yep. Very much so.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited July 2007
    I think the styling is nice. Good rugged look. Too many buttons though.
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    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,554
    edited July 2007
    Tjoeb means tube in Scan speak.
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  • fredv
    fredv Posts: 923
    edited July 2007
    RuSsMaN wrote: »
    Why do you keep saying Tjoeb?

    Good question, it is just a cut & paste from the upscale link :D

    -fredv-
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  • fredv
    fredv Posts: 923
    edited July 2007
    Off tpoic, a question to Jesse, I want to replace my Jolida's clock with the Tentlabs. Isn't it very complicated?

    Thanks!!

    -fredv-
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  • haimoc
    haimoc Posts: 1,031
    edited July 2007
    Wondering how much it costs!
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited July 2007
    F1nut wrote: »
    Tjoeb means tube in Scan speak.
    it means tube in Dutch.
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited July 2007
    The PrimaLuma Integrated tube amp is a pretty decent unit.
    Tubes for the clock? I think someone is yanking my privates. Thats NOT what I call forward progress. The jitter is produced from a lot of things. A tube here seems to be just a gimmick. Solid state in SSB is much more stable than a tube until it runs for a couple of hours. Guess we'll have to leave these running 24/7.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,554
    edited July 2007
    Fred, no it's easy. I'm sure the Tent clock comes with instructions. The worst part is removing the digital board under the transport.




    Scan - Dutch, they all sound funny to me. :)
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited July 2007
    That looks crazy. Can't wait to read reviews on it. The Tjoeb have good reviews (w/upsample models).
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  • fredv
    fredv Posts: 923
    edited July 2007
    Hey Maurice, where have you been? Haven't seen you for quite awhile.
    Did you try the Russian 1578 (6SN7) and 1579 (6SL7)? They will knock your socks off, try them.

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