Alpine or Kicker?

juaniyo
juaniyo Posts: 2
edited July 2007 in Car Audio & Electronics
I have 2 mm2124 they are 4 ohms, what would be better to push these subs the Alpine mrp m850 mono amp (800 watts rms x 1 at 2 ohms) Or the Kicker ZX750.1 (750 watts RMS x 1 at 2 ohms).
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited June 2007
    I would personally go with the Kicker. I've had many Kicker amplifiers over the years,my last being a ZX750.1, they have all been solid amps.
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited June 2007
    Alpine.

    Not only will it be built better, have no turn on/off pop but its also a perfect match power wise for a pair of MM2124's. Plus, I love all things Alpine! ;)
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  • juaniyo
    juaniyo Posts: 2
    edited June 2007
    Thanks for the advice. I was leaning towards the Alpine more but as I wrote this I found a MTX TC8001 which is (800 watts rms x 1 at 2 ohms) how does it compare to the Alpine?. Sorry for the retarded questions but I have never put a system together before and I want to get the most out of my subs. thanks for the help.jb
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited June 2007
    Funny you should ask. I just so happen to be a huge fan of MTX as well. Not so much their speakers but their amps and subs are pretty bad ****. Id still go with the Alpine, but if you got a smoking deal on the MTX and it was considerably cheaper, I might lean toward it.
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited June 2007
    MacLeod wrote: »
    Alpine.

    Not only will it be built better, have no turn on/off pop but its also a perfect match power wise for a pair of MM2124's. Plus, I love all things Alpine! ;)


    I have actually never had any of those issues with any of the Kicker amps that I have owned.

    The MRP line is actually Alpines lower line, so I would still go with Kicker.:)
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited June 2007
    We havent had any reliability problems with any of the 750.1s weve sold.
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited June 2007
    That is nice amp....they usually test out around 900 watts RMS.
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited June 2007
    we havent had one come through that didnt say at least 900 w on the birthsheet, but I'm not one that exactly believes birthsheets...
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  • Bloodhound50
    Bloodhound50 Posts: 23
    edited June 2007
    I might go alpine, although I like kicker as well but my friends seems to be childish, there is no ssf settings only on and off and if i remember correctly the lpf as well. It would appear they are build for kickers L7 so its probly ok if you are running one of those.
  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited June 2007
    Those amps are more than ok for running the L7 or any other sub within their power range. I believe Kicker makes solid amplifiers. I would put them up against many amps out there, including Alpine.

    At the moment I have what some would consider "high end" amplifiers...... I would not have any issues running Kicker gear in my car.
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
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  • Kenji_lim
    Kenji_lim Posts: 56
    edited July 2007
    Alpine can save power supply..and it properly can pump up bass well..and sound smooth..if u going for sound quality..maybe u should try it.
  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited July 2007
    Same goes for any other quality amp.....

    What do you mean by save power supply?
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
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    Second Skin
  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited July 2007
    I actually just switched to a couple of their Power amps this past week (T400-4 & T600-2).
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
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  • eloplayspolo
    eloplayspolo Posts: 1,117
    edited July 2007
    my MTX thunder elite class D amp is powering my 2 10" momos and its been incredible so far, people dont except that its only 2 10s, they think its 2 12s or 2 15s, no joke. i have had people in parking lots walk up to my car and ask.
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  • Kenji_lim
    Kenji_lim Posts: 56
    edited July 2007
    power save in amp..even when u off the remote supply from head unit..and it like capasitor..supply enough power to use..:rolleyes:
  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited July 2007
    Kind of hard to understand what you typed.....

    like I said any quality amp will be fine.
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
    KnuKonceptz
    Second Skin
  • Kenji_lim
    Kenji_lim Posts: 56
    edited July 2007
    sorry black..my english suck..anyway thanz for help..i really appreciate it..:)
  • Kenji_lim
    Kenji_lim Posts: 56
    edited July 2007
    :) Alpine produce clean highs sound..kicker much more better for SPL..agree??:rolleyes:
  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited July 2007
    Not at all.......a little more learning is needed on your part :).
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
    KnuKonceptz
    Second Skin
  • ilikesound
    ilikesound Posts: 355
    edited July 2007
    my mrp-m450 sounds amazing for what it does. id buy another real fast if this one were to kick the bucket. alpine amps are very clean from my experience.
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  • JoshParsons84
    JoshParsons84 Posts: 565
    edited July 2007
    Alpine all the way dude! Dont look back! I feel (from my experience) that Alpine produces the cleanest sounding amps on the open mass market. Also they're top-of-the-line speakers and subs in my opinion cannot be more dead accurate. Straight up. Now dont get me the wrong but Alpine's subs hit really hard, but they are not the hardest deepest hitting. I just feel like they're the most accurate subs out there, and then again that was running off of an Alpine amp too.
  • Kenji_lim
    Kenji_lim Posts: 56
    edited July 2007
    Not at all.......a little more learning is needed on your part :).

    thanz blackmax..i am starting to learn more from this forum...learning better english and car audio..:)
  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited July 2007
    That is a good thing :).
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
    KnuKonceptz
    Second Skin
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited July 2007
    Alpine all the way dude! Dont look back! I feel (from my experience) that Alpine produces the cleanest sounding amps on the open mass market. Also they're top-of-the-line speakers and subs in my opinion cannot be more dead accurate. Straight up. Now dont get me the wrong but Alpine's subs hit really hard, but they are not the hardest deepest hitting. I just feel like they're the most accurate subs out there, and then again that was running off of an Alpine amp too.

    No difference in sound between the two.

    As for their speakers, their Type R stuff is a little harsh for me but the Type X stuff is quite good.
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    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited July 2007
    Alpine all the way dude! Dont look back! I feel (from my experience) that Alpine produces the cleanest sounding amps on the open mass market. Also they're top-of-the-line speakers and subs in my opinion cannot be more dead accurate. Straight up. Now dont get me the wrong but Alpine's subs hit really hard, but they are not the hardest deepest hitting. I just feel like they're the most accurate subs out there, and then again that was running off of an Alpine amp too.



    If you are happy with your gear, that is cool. Just remember that there are many companies out there that put out products equal to, or better than Alpine. Keep an open mind, and listen to what is out there.
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
    KnuKonceptz
    Second Skin