Bi-amping (Receiver) vs Monoblocks
I just picked up a Denon 4306 (130w) receiver to upgrade from my Sony DG1000. The Denon allows you to assign two unused rear channels to bi-amp the fronts when only using 5.1. It is cleary stated in the manual and really easy to setup.
I currently have RTi10s powered by two Outlaw 2200 monoblocks. I am wondering if anyone has had any experience bi-amping a higher end Denon and can give advice on how well it sounded. If it is anywhere close to the monoblocks I am thinking of removing them (regaining valuable rack space) and selling them. The Denon is a pretty beefy receiver and I am 80% HT. The rest of my speakers are CSi3 (the 5 wouldn't fit) and FXi3 rears.
I currently have RTi10s powered by two Outlaw 2200 monoblocks. I am wondering if anyone has had any experience bi-amping a higher end Denon and can give advice on how well it sounded. If it is anywhere close to the monoblocks I am thinking of removing them (regaining valuable rack space) and selling them. The Denon is a pretty beefy receiver and I am 80% HT. The rest of my speakers are CSi3 (the 5 wouldn't fit) and FXi3 rears.
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Forget about bi-amping. Your Outlaws are fine.HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50 LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub
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The Denon will never give you what the Outlaws do!Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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I understand that the Outlaws are the better way to go but I am really hurting for rack space and I could fit a HD player where they currently are at.
I guess my real question is can a Denon 4306 (bi-amped) power the RTi10s? I don't listen to music at extermly high levels just looking for quality at morderate levels. -
Use the Outlaws. I have try the Denon bi-amp of the fronts when only using 5.1. I preferred the sound using the Outlaws better. It was more dynamic with the Outlaws.engtaz
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if you are lacking space and can live with the sound from running the RTi10's off the Denon.. do it! then sell me your Outlaw mono blocks. ha ha haPolkFest 2012, who's going>?
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I also have the Denon 4306 and have the Polk Rti12's and did try bi-amping them with the 4306 but had better results with 2 oulaw 2200's.
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I used to own a Denon 3805 which was also bi-ampable. I tried it and noticed that there was definitely some low end improvement but also noticed that I aquired some unwanted speaker hum although quite quiet it was noticable. I later added a Rotel RB1070 and my speakers came to life for two channel. You did note that you are primarily HT so you might not mind the step down in two channel power but I imagine if the 4306 hums after biamping like the 3805 did then you probably wont like it much.Onkyo TX NR 5008 modified by The Upgrade Company
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I am currently biamping my 12s with a Sony 7100es and the Outlaw M2200s. I have the sony driving the tweeters or top end and the outlaws on the bottom end. The sound is outstanding.Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!
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I am currently biamping my 12s with a Sony 7100es and the Outlaw M2200s. I have the sony driving the tweeters or top end and the outlaws on the bottom end. The sound is outstanding.
Never thought of using both like that. I guess i will just have to do a lot of testing and see what sounds best to my ears. -
Never thought of using both like that. I guess i will just have to do a lot of testing and see what sounds best to my ears.
That's the right approach. I would recommend that your more powerful amp always be on the woofer side though.There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin -
Right now I have my Onkyo AVR running the tops of the RTI12's and my separate Onkyo 100 WPC amp running the bottoms. The tops sounds awesome at all sound levels. The bottoms suck up that 100 Watts like a drunk lady with her 10th margaita. It has to be turned up pretty loud for those bottom 3 drivers to start singing. I’m going to look at getting the Outlaw monoblocks to run those 3 drivers. But at that point, I’m then worried that those front 2 speakers are going to dominate the sound on the system. Right now they actually don’t. It seems well balanced when watching movies in 5.1Testing
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It's so easy to biamp from that receiver, you could listen to it both ways without breaking a sweat, and then decide for yourself. I've tried biamping my 2 front lsi15s with my 5805 @170 wpc, and I've also tried running them from a 200 wpc B&K 2-channel separate amp. It was hard to tell a difference. Next I'm going to bi-amp each speaker with the B&K going to the low end and the Denon going to the upper, and see what happens. I'm betting it will make a difference - I'll let you know how much.
