so thaaats why Rock CD's suck!!!

ohskigod
ohskigod Posts: 6,502
edited June 2007 in 2 Channel Audio
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007250708,00.html

priceless.

at least there waking up to the fact that they need serious work on how these albums are produced.
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited June 2007
    Dang that really S**Ks
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited June 2007
    I read an article some months ago addressing the topic of compressed dynamics because of extrememly high recording levels of almost all new music. It's the "louder is better" commercial ploy destroying these pressings. Sound engineer veterans are making a push to get the "newbies" on-board with proper recording techniques, but I wouldn't hold your breath. Producers are interested in volume, not quality---like most things in America anymore.

    Sad fact.
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited June 2007
    Truly a sad day for music. On the other side of that coin, one of my friends had me listen to an album of his by some hardcore rock band where they were actually so loud in the studio that the mic could not properly pick-up the music because it was so loud and the recording came out sounding all cracked and distorted. He told me that was proof of how hardcore and awesome they were, and I just shook my head...
    Jake
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited June 2007
    that makes a lot of sense. Funny . . . all my best sounding discs SACD/CD/DVD-A all require that I turn my volume nob up higher than my crappy discs.
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  • dudeinaroom
    dudeinaroom Posts: 3,609
    edited June 2007
    They are just figuring this out now? this started in the 90's yeah the level weren't pushed as hard, or compressed as much as they are today. Take a listen to anything from the 80's or earlier, ther is more dynamic range in the recording than what you hear today. Sure a cd still has a dynamic range of 100 dbs, but when you are recording the softest passage at 85 dbs that only leaves you 15 dbs of dynamic range, no wonder why the new stuff that comes out sounds flat and life less. If music keeps going the way it has been pretty soon the only thing you are going to have is loud music with distortion instead of dynamic peaks.
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  • LessisNevermore
    LessisNevermore Posts: 1,519
    edited June 2007
    Here's a decent article with good visual examples
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

    And a graphic loudness timeline of the rising mastering levels of one band over the years. I'm hoping the link for this one works, because it's a real eye-opener.
    http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/articles/8A133F52D0FD71AB86256C2E005DAF1C


    Another excellent article: at the bottom are more visual examples of the phenomenon.http://mixonline.com/mag/audio_big_squeeze/
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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited June 2007
    "Would you like to super-size that?" strikes again.
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  • VXR8
    VXR8 Posts: 291
    edited June 2007
    Folks,

    Taking all this into consideration and the fact I actually enjoy "pop / rock" music, with over 3000 CDs varying from Abba, Metallica to ZZ Top. At the same time I also listen to Glenn Miller, some jazz and minimal classical. I was considering updating to LSi9 for mains, LSiC, LSiFX and a Rotel RMB1095.

    Would I be better sticking with the RTi10s, but still acquiring the 1095 for my musical tastes, or will the LSi series still bring the goods with the likes of the Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Metallica etc.? Any advice would be appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.
    Regards - Gaz from the land of Oz

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  • neomagus00
    neomagus00 Posts: 3,899
    edited June 2007
    hmm... i picked up on this pretty much as soon as i began buying cds... it's not just rock, though, it's bleeding into most popular genres (rap, alt, etc)

    it's not all bands, the good ones pay attention... try listening to hoobastank's 'the reason', or incubus's 'morning view', and compare to say prince's 'musicology'... world of difference
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