550K interface?

Music Joe
Music Joe Posts: 459
edited June 2007 in 2 Channel Audio
I'm curious about the price,anyone else curious about this thing? If it can do what is claimed,I like the idea of a dynamics and power boost(claiming 10db) that may keep the basic character of a system intact. Is it just a cheap digital amp and marketing?
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  • Yashu
    Yashu Posts: 772
    edited May 2007
    What is it?

    I am looking on google and do not come up with anything for "550k interface".
  • Music Joe
    Music Joe Posts: 459
    edited June 2007
    MF is hyping some with a countdown to the big reveal. I'm not trying to add to that hype. Here is the page to an announcement about 2 hours away.
    The product the way it was leaked on another site....seems like a ?power booster? You hook it to your speakers (1 for each side) and then your amps output to the 550K's input. I lifted this pic off another site.
    attachment.php4?attachmentid=9994
    http://www.musicalfidelity.com/index3.html
  • Music Joe
    Music Joe Posts: 459
    edited June 2007
    but no price.
    If the things even close to the price of a pair of 500watt monoblock digital amps it all seems moot.
  • Yashu
    Yashu Posts: 772
    edited June 2007
    Hmm... Sounds like a gimmik.

    I mean... I suppose it would be useful if it had like a super super low THD... and say, you wanted to power your watt/puppies with a 10w SET amp, but this is the same company that makes that tube buffer that doesn't do anything.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,554
    edited June 2007
    Hmmmmm....I'm not sure about the power boost deal, but there's a helluva lot of folks that would disagree with your tube buffer comment.
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  • Music Joe
    Music Joe Posts: 459
    edited June 2007
    Yashu wrote: »
    Hmm... Sounds like a gimmik.

    I mean... I suppose it would be useful if it had like a super super low THD... and say, you wanted to power your watt/puppies with a 10w SET amp, but this is the same company that makes that tube buffer that doesn't do anything.
    MF and Gimmicks go hand in hand... and the tube buffer does lighten a wallet ;)
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,554
    edited June 2007
    Music Joe wrote: »
    MF and Gimmicks go hand in hand... and the tube buffer does lighten a wallet ;)

    Explain your comment in detail. Do you have actual experience with any of their products?
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • Yashu
    Yashu Posts: 772
    edited June 2007
    There are true tubed buffers, and there is the MF buffer. The MF buffer uses a rare non-standard tube, one that you cannot replace, so #1 - no tube rolling, and #2, the MF tube buffer is really only used for changing imedance from the source, this odd tube they use is just so the sound doesn't get mucked up. I have heard it, wasn't impressed... but then again, I shouldn't have been expecting much since MF didn't design it to do what people think it does.

    There are companies that make a true tube buffer, like the Yaqin tube buffer, but MF seems to make a lot of "gadgetry".
  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited June 2007
    Music Joe wrote: »
    MF and Gimmicks go hand in hand... ;)

    Have to agree with this one.

    Past gimmicks include but are not limited to the following:
    *Small add on devices such as the tube buffer, dac, etc
    *Headphone amp in a tube
    *Using "wired in" long life tubes
    *Mega power amps
    *Power booster :rolleyes:

    I know there are more, just can't think right now.

    Gimmicks are not necessarily bad, just gimmicky. Good thing they make some of the best quality stuff out there!

    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
  • Music Joe
    Music Joe Posts: 459
    edited June 2007
    And Value,hence the original question...how much is this new device?
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,554
    edited June 2007
    Yashu wrote: »
    There are true tubed buffers, and there is the MF buffer. The MF buffer uses a rare non-standard tube, one that you cannot replace, so #1 - no tube rolling, and #2, the MF tube buffer is really only used for changing imedance from the source, this odd tube they use is just so the sound doesn't get mucked up. I have heard it, wasn't impressed... but then again, I shouldn't have been expecting much since MF didn't design it to do what people think it does.

    There are companies that make a true tube buffer, like the Yaqin tube buffer, but MF seems to make a lot of "gadgetry".

    A tube buffer is a tube buffer, they pass the output signal from a source thru the tube(s) and out again. Sure the X-10v3 changes the impedance, it has a high input impedance for better matching with various CDP's and that is not a bad thing. The Yaqin on the other hand.....well, I couldn't find much in the way of specs, read into that what you will.

    A rare non-standard tube? Well, it's a 6112 twin triode mil-spec that lasts about 100,000 hours (11.5 years if left on 24/7) and is totally immune from microphonics. You can replace it if need be, it's just hardwired to the board. Now, if you found the sound of the 6112 not to your liking, fine, but alot of folks do like it. In fact, it's the same tube used in the TOTL kW gear and MF has plenty of extra tubes on hand should one need replacing.

    As for tube rolling, you're right, it can't be done. However, I suppose you'd thumb your nose at BAT products and call their gear gimmicky too as alot of their gear can only use the 6H30 super tube.
    this odd tube they use is just so the sound doesn't get mucked up.
    That comment defies logic.

    but this is the same company that makes that tube buffer that doesn't do anything.

    Really??? 50,000 + folks might disagree with you on that one.

    Let's face it, you have a chip on your shoulder with regard to MF products. Why, I'm not sure. Perhaps you've bought into some negative comments you've read, maybe you can't afford their products, maybe something else. Whatever your reason, it's shame because as MM states, "Good thing they make some of the best quality stuff out there!"
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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  • Music Joe
    Music Joe Posts: 459
    edited June 2007
    3k per monoblock, a good value against a retail kw550 integrated.A used kw550 however is priced more tempting with added flexibility. Still both out of my league...630 watts must be sweet.
  • Yashu
    Yashu Posts: 772
    edited June 2007
    They do make some great stuff... I think that maybe it was because I was expecting more than what I heard... not sure really.

    Maybe I should clarify, I am talking about the x-10v3. The original x-10 got pretty good reviews, but never heard it.

    It isn't about affordability either... I had a full intention to buy one, but I guess now I am glad I waited. No biggie, didn't want to offend anyone with x-10s... wasn't trying to bash the company.