Viruses from pop-up ads

Serendipity
Serendipity Posts: 6,975
edited May 2007 in The Clubhouse
Would like to let all fellow members know:

I'll have to admit that I thought everything on the web "home theater" related was safe. Until now. A while back I clicked on one of those "My Home Theater" links, which opened up a Webshots window...then some pop-up came up (I never get pop-ups) and offered some download, which I immediately closed. Then 2 seconds later my hard drive keeps making noises and I find out that I have a virus!!

Turns out that by clicking the X (or close) button you are actually clicking on the ad, and then that advertisement loads something else on your computer. I didn't realize it until it was after the fact...

Anyways, just wanted to warn everyone about this potential threat. Not everything "home theater" related is safe. And to make things worse, I worked in network security for 2 years and should have known better!

So be aware of any advertisements that appear on HT related sites, they CAN be harmful!
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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited May 2007
    Task Manager/End Task is your friend.
  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited May 2007
    Should have thought about that. Really embarassing since I did cybersecurity work a few years ago.
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  • Sansui
    Sansui Posts: 372
    edited May 2007
    Appadv, what anti-virus or no popup ad program(s) are you using? Don't take this wrong but I hope I'm not using it.

    So let's say a popup appears when one doesn't get any to begin with? How does one get rid of it safely without clicking on the "surprise X"? Immediately reboot?

    Oh, which site did you go to?
    Be gentle, I'm new to all this...

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  • BaggedLancer
    BaggedLancer Posts: 6,371
    edited May 2007
    ALT-F4 will close the selected window.

    Alot of times there is actually 2 "X" to click on. The real one and one that looks exactly like it just below it. Pay attention to where your mouse goes :)
  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited May 2007
    Since I used to work in network security, I have access to corporate editions of software and I have the following installed:

    AntiVirus - Symantec AntiVirus Enterprise edition
    Spyware Removal - Webroot Spy Sweeper, Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D, HijackThis
    Firewall - Netgear ProSafe VPN (hardware firewall)
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited May 2007
    Sansui wrote: »

    Oh, which site did you go to?

    I was on Club Polk but apparently navigated away from here by clicking on a "My Home Theater" link.
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  • BaggedLancer
    BaggedLancer Posts: 6,371
    edited May 2007
    Gotta lay off the porno man.......that stuff is loaded with viruses...
  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited May 2007
    Gotta lay off the porno man.......that stuff is loaded with viruses...

    haha, I'm surprised this happened from clicking on something HT related...

    Anyways, as you can see in this screen shot, I'm running both Norton Internet Security and Symantec Enterprise edition together. Aside from using more system resources, is this a problem? Since I have never used a consumer AV product along with Symanted Enterprise edition...
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  • BaggedLancer
    BaggedLancer Posts: 6,371
    edited May 2007
    I can't see it being a problem as long as you keep both up to date. Are you 100% you have a virus? And if you are, did either of those softwares detect it and ask you what you want to do with it?
  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited May 2007
    Yes, both Symantec Enterprise and Norton Internet Security detected the virus as a Downloader.Trojan (which means nothing, since there are so many variants). However, neither program could remove or quarantine the virus.

    So - what Anti-Virus program do you guys use?
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  • BaggedLancer
    BaggedLancer Posts: 6,371
    edited May 2007
    I use McAffee that comes free from comcast.....so far it's about the only thing that works great from Comcrap. However, I am dumping Comcrap at the end of next month so I will need something else. Probably going to buy the McAffee suite or see what Verizon offers.
  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited May 2007
    I'd recommend the McAfee Enterprise edition, it's a much more efficient software (system resource friendly) and since it's not a resource hog the PC runs much faster.

    The only catch is that you have to buy it as a corporate license, you can't get it standalone.
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  • Sansui
    Sansui Posts: 372
    edited May 2007
    appadv wrote: »
    I was on Club Polk but apparently navigated away from here by clicking on a "My Home Theater" link.
    Thanks for the warning!
    Be gentle, I'm new to all this...

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  • Sansui
    Sansui Posts: 372
    edited May 2007
    ALT-F4 will close the selected window.

    Alot of times there is actually 2 "X" to click on. The real one and one that looks exactly like it just below it. Pay attention to where your mouse goes :)
    Thanks for the info!!
    Be gentle, I'm new to all this...

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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited May 2007
    Now that I think about it, BaggedLancer is right. You have to be careful of the "X" you are clicking on, making sure that it's not PART OF THE AD!
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  • TheReaper
    TheReaper Posts: 636
    edited May 2007
    Sansui wrote: »
    So let's say a popup appears when one doesn't get any to begin with? How does one get rid of it safely without clicking on the "surprise X"? Immediately reboot?
    Another way, is down on the bottom of your screen where Windows puts a button for each running program. Right click on the IE button(s) and click close/close all, on the pop-menu.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited May 2007
    Should have done that. Oh well, too late.
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  • THX 3417
    THX 3417 Posts: 219
    edited May 2007
    Mate thanks for the heads up on this I’d say this a top priority because I’ve had the same problems if I found out where they live I’d cut there internet line and hook up a few thousands volts with a few crocodile clips and then discharge the voltage into thee pc!:mad:

    Anyway the gloves are off now no more Mr. Nice guy, "hacks" beware if I find out where you live within my county expect a few sparks to come smoking from your pc in the dead of night you little buggers!:mad:
  • Polk65
    Polk65 Posts: 1,405
    edited May 2007
    linux

    What is an antivirus? It's been 10 years since I needed a flu shot. Clicking false areas of popups is an old game. It could have been much worse if you were on dialup. The old trick was to hangup your internet connection then call an overseas number with a huge charge back.
  • THX 3417
    THX 3417 Posts: 219
    edited May 2007
    I believe the FBI takes this matter seriously I was viewing the web site thee weeks ago about computer fraud etc.
  • michael_w
    michael_w Posts: 2,813
    edited May 2007
    Nod32 when I'm on windows (xp pro anyways) and I don't really worry too much about antivirus with ubuntu (for now). Not too many actually contain viruses but with popups come malware and spyware that can be just as much of a drain on your computer.
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited May 2007
    I'm running Firefox with adblock and don't allow any popups so I don't have to worry about this.
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  • Rivrrat
    Rivrrat Posts: 2,101
    edited May 2007
    appadv wrote: »
    Yes, both Symantec Enterprise and Norton Internet Security detected the virus as a Downloader.Trojan (which means nothing, since there are so many variants). However, neither program could remove or quarantine the virus.

    So - what Anti-Virus program do you guys use?


    Try using Ccleaner, so far it's always cleaned trojans like that my Macafee couldn't get.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited May 2007
    I run Knoppix and Red Hat Linux personally.

    This happened on my dad's computer.
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  • KrazyMofo24
    KrazyMofo24 Posts: 1,210
    edited May 2007
    Running two antiviruses, just slows down your system, and doesn't add much benefit. Kaspersky, and NOD32 are both good antiviruses.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited May 2007
    Running two antiviruses, just slows down your system, and doesn't add much benefit. Kaspersky, and NOD32 are both good antiviruses.

    Thanks for the advice. The only thing is that usually corporate versions of AV products usually do not slow down the system much. It's products like Norton Internet Security, McAfee Total Protection, etc. that really slow down the system. Just my opinion.
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