Banana Plug question

heiney9
heiney9 Posts: 25,217
edited June 2007 in Speakers
I have a pair of Signal Cable speaker cables that Frank generously donated to the Chicago PF. They are terminated with spades and they are too beefy for me to attach to the Vampire terminals on the SDA's. I can't get them to snug up well enough to keep the spade firmly in place. When I attempt to use pliers to lightly snug them up I can feel the Vampire terminal starting to turn in the terminal cup. I'm not a big fan of spaded anyways.

My plan is to remove the spades and terminate with banana plugs, these specifically.

http://www.speakerrepair.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=BL8&Category_Code=locking

1st question: Does anyone have any other links to 'nanna plugs that are similar than these but not a whole lot more expensive? I like the fact that they use 2 screws to secure the wire. I also like that they are the expanding type

2nd question: Has anyone dealt with Orang County Speaker? Are they reputable? Do they deliver a quality product as stated? Shipping by USPS is only $5.95

I'm open to any and all suggestions.

H9
"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2007
    Bro, these are what I just purchased. Not cheap but great quality and very easy to handle and install.

    I purchased the two last nanners on the page. Hope this helps. BTW I ordered them on a Tuesday night and had them in my hands Thursday morning.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,875
    edited May 2007
    Heiney,
    Check out this
    http://www.wholesaleaudioaccessories.com/page/WHOLESALEAUDIOACCESSORIES/CTGY/premiumbananaplugs

    Similar deal on the locking nanners, plus a few other inexpensive options.
    For rig details, see my profile. Nothing here anymore...
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited May 2007
    Heiney,
    I have some of these sitting in a drawer. There are 2 screws for securing the wire and are 24K plated. This is a stock photo of them, but the ones I have are identical. If you want them let me know.
    Michael ;)
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited May 2007
    Leave the spades on and buy some compression type banana plugs to attach to the spades. Problem solved.

    See part #SB in HI's link. Theses plugs can be found a lot cheaper all day on ebay.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • bsoko2
    bsoko2 Posts: 1,449
    edited May 2007
    Go to this site: http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=091-1165 and see what they have.
    My 2012 HT Room - http://www.avsforum.com/t/1416077/bsoko2-new-ht-june-2012
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,093
    edited May 2007
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I have a pair of Signal Cable speaker cables that Frank generously donated to the Chicago PF. They are terminated with spades and they are too beefy for me to attach to the Vampire terminals on the SDA's. I can't get them to snug up well enough to keep the spade firmly in place. When I attempt to use pliers to lightly snug them up I can feel the Vampire terminal starting to turn in the terminal cup. I'm not a big fan of spaded anyways.

    My plan is to remove the spades and terminate with banana plugs, these specifically.

    http://www.speakerrepair.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=BL8&Category_Code=locking

    1st question: Does anyone have any other links to 'nanna plugs that are similar than these but not a whole lot more expensive? I like the fact that they use 2 screws to secure the wire. I also like that they are the expanding type

    2nd question: Has anyone dealt with Orang County Speaker? Are they reputable? Do they deliver a quality product as stated? Shipping by USPS is only $5.95

    I'm open to any and all suggestions.

    H9

    They're the same exact ones I bought from Orange County. Excellent product, they shipped in record time & they were great to deal with. The plugs look like they cost a lot more & they work great. I wouldn't hesitate to buy from them.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited May 2007
    What wrong with:
    http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10401&cs_id=1040115&p_id=2944&seq=1&format=2&style=
    or
    http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10401&cs_id=1040115&p_id=2943&seq=1&format=2&style= ?
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited May 2007
    Early B. wrote: »
    Leave the spades on and buy some compression type banana plugs to attach to the spades. Problem solved.

    See part #SB in HI's link. Theses plugs can be found a lot cheaper all day on ebay.

    That's a great idea, but a bit pricey. I found these also, which for 8 are going to be pricey as well. I'm not nec. looking for cheap stuff, just the best deal.

    http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=AQ1002G

    Thanks for all the ideas and links so far......keep them coming

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited May 2007
    heiney9 wrote: »
    That's a great idea, but a bit pricey. I found these also, which for 8 are going to be pricey as well. I'm not nec. looking for cheap stuff, just the best deal.

    http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=AQ1002G

    Thanks for all the ideas and links so far......keep them coming

    H9

    There's a ton of them on ebay for cheap, like these:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/4-Sets-of-Solderless-Banana-Plugs-For-Speaker-Wire-NEW_W0QQitemZ200112492392QQihZ010QQcategoryZ32838QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,231
    edited May 2007
    Have you researched Vampire nanners?
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • jabrax
    jabrax Posts: 315
    edited May 2007
    H9 - I purchased those exact plugs from speakerrepair. - Fast and reliable transaction.
    TV...............Hitachi 42hdS52a plasma (sexy one with the swival)
    Pre/Processor - Emotiva MMC
    Seven Ch AMP - Emotiva LPA
    Fronts - Tyler Acoustics 7U's
    Center - Polk LSIC
    Sub - DSWPRO600
    DAC - Music Hall 25.3CD - Marantz cc4001
    Blue Ray - PS3
    Speaker cables - Audioquest cv4 dbs
    Interconnects - MIT AVT1's
    Power Filter....Monster HTS 3500 MKII
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  • Bill Ayotte
    Bill Ayotte Posts: 1,860
    edited May 2007
    How about Eichmann Bayonets? I have a set of those on my cables, they work great...A little costly though.
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  • McCelery
    McCelery Posts: 123
    edited May 2007
    I use these GLS bananas on the amp end and the non locking versions on the speaker and and like em fine. The only issue I have with them is that they seem to have one piece too many pieces that screw together and they tend to loosen up over time and need retightening. Minor gripe. Otherwise very easy to use. I just ordered some gold plated Nakamichi bananas with dual screws that look a little less bulky than the GLS for my 2ch system.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited May 2007
    McCelery wrote: »
    I use these GLS bananas on the amp end and the non locking versions on the speaker and and like em fine. The only issue I have with them is that they seem to have one piece too many pieces that screw together and they tend to loosen up over time and need retightening. Minor gripe. Otherwise very easy to use. I just ordered some gold plated Nakamichi bananas with dual screws that look a little less bulky than the GLS for my 2ch system.

    Did the Nak's come from a seller in Hong Kong? Let me know how it goes. I've seen those on ebay and almost pulled the trigger a couple of times, but the Hong Kong thing scared me away.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • louthewiz
    louthewiz Posts: 581
    edited May 2007
    I bought the monoprice banana plugs and they were alot better than some vampire plugs I used to have...
    My gear,
    Acer PH530 720P PJ
    100 inch Da-Lite Video Spectra screen
    Yamaha HTR 5790
    Toshiba HD-A3
    Denon 1600 dvd player with sdi out,
    DVDO iSCAN HD+
    Panasonic Dmr E-80H
    Dishnetwork HD pvr
    1 Audiosource amp300 150 wpc Fronts
    1 Audiosource ampone bridged 200 watts powering center
    1 Onkyo M-282 105 wpc amplifier sides
    polk cs400 center
    polk RT400 mains
    Polk mkII back surrounds,
    Polk FX300fxi dipole surrounds
    Velodyne DPS-10 sub
    Klipsch KSW-10 sub.:cool:
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  • Yashu
    Yashu Posts: 772
    edited May 2007
    With respect to orange county speaker... I have dealt with them and they ship fast and reliably.

    Buy from them if the deal is what you are looking for. The bananna plugs with the two screws are great, easy to work with, grip the wire really well, (I have used 12g wire with success). Go for it. The different brands aren't all that important... Orange County Speaker is pretty good so I think you have a safe bet.
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  • brijenjas
    brijenjas Posts: 311
    edited May 2007
    How about the locking bananas from Blue Jeans Cable.

    I've had them on my mains speaker wires for about a year.

    They are gold plated.. $5.25 pair.


    http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/speaker/index.htm
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  • McCelery
    McCelery Posts: 123
    edited May 2007
    Yup, $20 shipped and I crossed my fingers. I've actually gotten a number of items from China or Thailand and they always arrived within a week with no problems.
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Did the Nak's come from a seller in Hong Kong? Let me know how it goes. I've seen those on ebay and almost pulled the trigger a couple of times, but the Hong Kong thing scared me away.

    H9
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  • McCelery
    McCelery Posts: 123
    edited June 2007
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Did the Nak's come from a seller in Hong Kong? Let me know how it goes. I've seen those on ebay and almost pulled the trigger a couple of times, but the Hong Kong thing scared me away.

    H9

    They arrived last week while I was away, so pretty quick turnaround. They're the real deal, packaged very efficiently, and I'm happy. So there ya go :p
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  • michael_w
    michael_w Posts: 2,813
    edited June 2007
    Sorry if this is off topic, but has anyone found a good dealer for nanners in Canada? The cheapest I found were futureshop at $10 / 4 plugs, but they're one screw acoustic research and mediocre at best (seem to fall out easily no matter how well you tighten the little tiny screw - and they don't carry them anymore).
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