what are tubes? Do they make a home theatre sound alot better?

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1lakerfan
1lakerfan Posts: 112
Should I buy one? I have a denon 2807 reciever
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited May 2007
    Tubes would be mainly for 2 channel not Home theater. (Although I have heard of at least one tube pre/pro for home theater.)

    Need to know what your speakers are and your goals with your system are. (2 channel, home theater, etc.) If I was running a home theater (which I am) I would not worry about running a tube preamp or amp unless I was very into 2 channel (which I am not).

    Michael
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    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
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    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited May 2007
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited May 2007
    Come on now Ted why beat around the bush just come on out and be blunt about it.


    Oh you where NEVER MIND

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  • dudeinaroom
    dudeinaroom Posts: 3,609
    edited May 2007
    IF you get just a tube it is not going to do anything for you except look pretty. If you got a few tube amps to run off your Denon then you would be stylin'
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited May 2007
    Are you trying to add to this Forum? Or cause trouble?

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • The Naked Truth
    The Naked Truth Posts: 30
    edited May 2007
    FYI, some tube amps will cost you an arm and a leg.
    For example, this 8W baby http://www.audionote.co.uk/products/amps_power/conqueror_01.shtml would cost over £2,000.
    You can see many examples of true Audiophile equipment and prices here:
    http://www.noteworthyaudio.co.uk/Products.html

    Now that you've seen it, unless you have a lot of spare money to spend, better stay a HT enthusiast.
    I love postwhores, are you one?
  • liordra
    liordra Posts: 152
    edited May 2007
    disneyjoe7 wrote: »
    Are you trying to add to this Forum? Or cause trouble?

    Naked's point of view seems pretty clear to me; consider the Graph of diminishing returns, he figures the point on the X Axis, where the Y Axis's stops increasing in sensible increments (the differential is close to Zero) arrives much sooner then most of the Veteran members on CP.
    Everybody is entitled to an opinion, especially on the Internet website of one of the most bang-for-the-buckiest Hi-Fi companies I know.
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited May 2007
    I wouldn't bother with tubes in an HT rig unless its also your 2CH rig. Tubes aren't any more expensive to get into than SS gear, you just need to be informed.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited June 2007
    The fact is there is some very reasonably priced tube gear available today that just puts SS to shame as far as sound and build quality.

    Of course when speaking in terms of money and an individual's ability to lay out dollars, what is sensible to one person may not be to another. But tubed gear is available for just about any budget.

    Talking about what something cost can be irrelevent. Although I did not recommend a tube set up for HT, if someone really wanted to, have at it, I suspect another music lover may be in the making.

    RT1
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,064
    edited June 2007
    The more resolving your system becomes,the more you'll gravitate
    towards tubes.In your case,try a tube buffer,used at 2-250 clams is pretty cheap and can be re-sold at the same price if you don't like it.Like RT1 said,there is alot of tube gear at cheap prices,new and used.Don't be scared by people trying to push the higher end of tube gear that you can't afford.Also ,as others have said,mostly for music rather than HT.Play around a bit with your gear,thats the fun part of the journey,ask questions,buy used,and who knows,you might become an addict like the rest of us weirdo's.
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    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
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    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

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    Sonos zp90
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