Do you listen to crap...

AsSiMiLaTeD
AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
edited May 2007 in Music & Movies
...just because it 'sounds' good?

I've noticed myself doing this a few times. I'll find myself listening to a song that I don't really like just because it was recorded well or it sounds good on my setup.

The latest example is that f'ing Blue October song, Into the Ocean. i can't stand the song, it embodies almost everything I hate about music today. yet, here I am, listening to it as I type this because it appears to have been recorded well and sounds awesome on the LSi7.

I'm retarded...
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited May 2007
    Music is overrated.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited May 2007
    Yeah. It's called "jazz." Never really liked it until I discovered better audio gear. Not sure if I actually like it now. Most of it sucks, so I'm agreeing with Doro on this one...
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    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited May 2007
    Jazz is an endless journey to nowhere. Way too many notes in too short of a time, often in a frenzy. But yes, I do often times listen to something because it sounds good. In real life we do this without thinking about it. Go to anything live that sounds good and you will walk out with a real appreciation of the artist. Often it will alter what you hear coming from their poorly recordings when you listen later.
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited May 2007
    I am more than willing to listen to music that is very well recorded, but I otherwise would not like.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited May 2007
    madmax wrote: »
    Jazz is an endless journey to nowhere.

    I feel the same way about most blues. And so many of my friends dig the blues... it just all sounds the same to me.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,960
    edited May 2007
    sometimes... but not as much as I used to. I think that's growth :-)
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  • strider
    strider Posts: 2,568
    edited May 2007
    Yes, most definitely, and afterwards I feel dirty and shameful. This recording would be "Scarborough Fair" off of Simon and Garfunkel's "Parsley, Sage, Rosemary, and Thyme." Sounds great on SDA's , but now I think I understand what it would be like to be hooked up to a morphine/LSD IV drip.
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  • BottomFeeder
    BottomFeeder Posts: 1,684
    edited May 2007
    Me, too!

    & I find the opposite to be true as well. I'm less inclined to listen to music that I like if it's recorded poorly.
    "Wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then." Bob Seger
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited May 2007
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    I feel the same way about most blues. And so many of my friends dig the blues... it just all sounds the same to me.


    Yeah. The blues are cool, but they are, uugghhh -- kind of blue. Why the hell would someone wanna listen to sad music for any length of time?
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited May 2007
    Great-sound recordings, but ultimately boring music, is a waste of time....such as most country and rap music. I fell into the trap a few times (OK, more than a few times) because so-and-so said/wrote that some recording is "to-die-for".
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited May 2007
    Danny Tse wrote: »
    Great-sound recordings, but ultimately boring music, is a waste of time....such as most country and rap music. I fell into the trap a few times (OK, more than a few times) because so-and-so said/wrote that some recording is "to-die-for".
    I think that'w where I'm at right now.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,781
    edited May 2007
    Never. A love of music is what got me into Hi-Fi to begin with, no way I'm listening to music I don't like, just for the sound quality.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited May 2007
    Yes. I confess. Britney Spears DVD Audio.
















    I'm so ashamed.
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    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited May 2007
    I've listened to crap, but then I started liking it. So often I listen to something once, twice, maybe three times before I see the beauty in it. ie. Patricia Barber Companion SACD or Mary Stallings Clarity Records Smooth and Mellow. I hated jazz, but now I love it. There's something sleazy and intoxicating about it. I guess sometimes you have to hate something before you like it, or maybe you just didn't understand the first time around. At any rate, I've listened to Ludacris 'Chicken & Beer' SACD . . . still hate it, but rappin about biitches and hoes never sounded so clear.
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,664
    edited May 2007
    wingnut4772 wrote: »
    Yes. I confess. Britney Spears DVD Audio.
    I'm so ashamed.


    True classic. LOL
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
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  • Midnite Mick
    Midnite Mick Posts: 1,591
    edited May 2007
    I don't think I listen to crap per se. I have ventured to areas that I otherwise would have not if it weren't for acquiring a better system. I also have to admit I don't listen to a lot of music that I love because it sounds like crap now.

    The blues is not sad music......it is soulful music.

    Darla I don't know how you can hold your head up after that post. There are just some things better left unsaid.:)

    Thanks,
    Mike
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited May 2007
    I'll listen to good music recorded poorly but I won't listen to bad music just because it is recorded well.

    To use your terminolgy...crap...even if it is in a pretty box, with ribbons and bows and scented with perfume...is still crap.
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited May 2007
    I'm with Shack on this one!
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  • NeilGabriel
    NeilGabriel Posts: 1,487
    edited May 2007
    No...but damn I watch a lot of discovery channel now for that HD broadcasting.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2007
    I'm the opposite of Shack & cfrizz. I will listen to music or any genre that I don't like/not familiar with if it is recorded well and the performance is great. I've found throughout my life that this open mindedness with music has broadened my horizons when it comes to music. When I was younger I wouldn't listen to anything that I even thought was anything but rock or classical. Now I listen to it all. Even beatnik "crap." Rap, well I've not heard anything recorded well yet so. But I do have a John Legend CD that I really like.

    How will you ever know if you like a genre if you don't have some forays into it????

    If I can close my eyes and be transported to the stage with the performers right in front of me, I'm loving it! Yep even Madonna, Bette Midler, Streisand, etc. Neil Diamond, Barry Manalow.

    Does anyone feel like throwing up yet?
    strider wrote: »
    This recording would be "Scarborough Fair" off of Simon and Garfunkel's "Parsley, Sage, Rosemary, and Thyme." Sounds great on SDA's , but now I think I understand what it would be like to be hooked up to a morphine/LSD IV drip.

    I love this!!! I have it on all kinds of records. Have you ever heard the Delfonics version? It is goosebump raising. . . and you are quite correct it is a real SDA showcase.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited May 2007
    "Does anyone feel like throwing up yet?"

    After reading your SDA Queen thread, yes.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited May 2007
    dorokusai wrote: »
    "Does anyone feel like throwing up yet?"

    After reading your SDA Queen thread, yes.

    :p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p
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  • John K.
    John K. Posts: 822
    edited May 2007
    No, PM. If that's actually the way that you view the "music" in question, then listening to it because of sound quality in and of itself seems like a frivolous pursuit. Good music is the bottom line and hopefully the fidelity will be high enough to allow us to enjoy it fully, but even when it isn't(a few of my CDs were recorded in the 1930s), it can still be worth hearing an exceptional performance.
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited May 2007
    What I am trying to figure out from all that has been said here is this.... How can it be good music if its a poor recording?

    I have bought albums of artists that i truly like but sometimes it was recorded live in a stadium with piss poor acoustics etc, and its practically unbearable to listen to.

    Is it the lyrics themselves that make it good music? if that was the case I could hum the lyrics and be perfectly happy.

    So for me at least the music quality has to be at least good for me to listen for any length of time. I want to hear the instruments to sound like they did when they were played in addition to the lyrics themselves.

    Sometimes the voice of the artist (he or she) is so good that I enjoy it even if it isnt my usual or favorite type of music.

    Sometimes the instruments sound better than the artist themselves do which is ok too.


    For example I listened to an SACD tonight of music and artists that I would normally never buy or listen to. It was the worlds greatest audiophile vocal recordings by chesky records.

    It was wonderful!!! Even though some of the songs I couldndt understand what the hell they were singing about because it was in a language i dont understand. I know I liked there voices and the recording of the instruments were very very good also.

    I used to never listen to madonna for example but I have to admit I bought one of her cds. Not because I have fell in love with her songs but it was a very very good recording. The instruments were very very good and some of her lyrics were actually bearable:p (Because of the great recording) If it had been a poor recording I would have winged this cd as far as I could manage into the nearest river.

    Neil diamond has one of the greatest voices ever period. I listen to his albums sometimes because of his voice. Not because of the instruments.

    Bad company had some really good songs, lyrics as well as instruments. Even though paul rodgers left I still like the songs even if it was someone else singing it.

    So what makes good music for me? anyone of these things the voice of the singer. the instruments. the lyrics. Any one of these things to me is good music, if its a great recording. But if its poorly recorded then since I cant hear what I want to hear because its poorly recorded It sucks.

    There seems to be so few actual great recording out there in any genre that once I find one i buy it. I dont care if its country, Jazz, Blues, Pop, Rock, Metal, Friggin polka music for gods sakes:D I dont care. I love a great recording.

    So for me ill have to side with Joe on this one. I actually like Freddy mercurys voice, and I appreciate the talent of him and his band. Though it is more bearable if when its a dvd I turn off the video portion lol.

    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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