1080p upscaling receivers

blacklab

If a new receiver upscales to 1080p, then is it necessary to subscribe to HD TV, get a BR or HD DVD player, etc... The logical answer to me is "no, because that is what you are paying for when you get an upscaling 1080p receiver". So, what are the thoughts out there?

AndyGwis

Upscaling is nothing but the redheaded stepchild to HD content. It tries to make crappy content better than it is, but doesn't work 100%.

Kind of like in Jurassic Park where they have some DNA code for Dinosaurs but fill in the gaps with frog DNA. Or, Superman where Richard Prior doesn't know the last ingredient for Kryptonite so he goes with Tar. I think we all know how both of those ordeals worked out. . . very poorly.

In closing, 1080i/p upscaling is better than straight 480i/p, but HD TV, BR, and HD-DVD still blow it away.

doggie750

AndyGwis wrote: »

Upscaling is nothing but the redheaded stepchild to HD content. It tries to make crappy content better than it is, but doesn't work 100%.

Kind of like in Jurassic Park where they have some DNA code for Dinosaurs but fill in the gaps with frog DNA. Or, Superman where Richard Prior doesn't know the last ingredient for Kryptonite so he goes with Tar. I think we all know how both of those ordeals worked out. . . very poorly.

In closing, 1080i/p upscaling is better than straight 480i/p, but HD TV, BR, and HD-DVD still blow it away.

I had the same question as you b4.........upscaling market is misleading....stay away from it........get a ps3!

Spacedeckman

There is good upscaling, and bad upscaling. Good upscaling is expensive. Real 1080p would be better than upscaling. Don't hold your breath.

Mark

krabby5

blacklab wrote: »

If a new receiver upscales to 1080p, then is it necessary to subscribe to HD TV, get a BR or HD DVD player, etc... The logical answer to me is "no, because that is what you are paying for when you get an upscaling 1080p receiver". So, what are the thoughts out there?

by that logic, you wouldn't even need the upscaling receiver..your tv upscales to it's native resolution anyways

Which comes back to the upscaling dvd player debate..some see benefits, some don't..

For me, I didn't see ANY improvement going from a 3 year-old 480i dvd player ($80) using component to a Denon 1930ci player ($350) using HDMI

John K.

Blacky, keep in mind what some have mentioned: "upscaling" makes lower resolution material playable on fixed "native resolution" HDTVs(not CRTs), but doesn't create "real" resolution, although the result on a new TV can look pretty good. Since displays having a fixed number of pixels(picture elements)on the screen have to fill all of them to even show a complete picture, 480 material from standard DVDs or standard definition TV has to have more pixels mathematically calculated and interpolated into the screen for 720 or 1080 displays. All such displays have to upscale lower definition material themselves if a player, separate processor or receiver hasn't already done it; the question would be if any of these units would do a visibly better job of scaling(or deinterlacing i to p)than the display itself would do. There are many displays which handle scaling and deinterlacing very well and in those cases this processing is superfluous in other units.

scottdwagner

If you have an expensive video source with a good scaler, use it preferentially. If you have an expensive display with a good scaler, use it preferentially. If you have an expensive display and and an expensive video source, you're in better shape than me...