Regret

fatchowmein
fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
edited May 2007 in The Clubhouse
Not about speakers, subs, amps, players, SACD, or 1080P's. Sometimes, we get busy with our lives, our families, our jobs, and our hobbies that we don't complete all the things we intended to do. We let things slide or simmer in the back burner or move them to "Someday I'll".

Today, I buried a friend, not one of my inner circle of confidants but one of those work buddies I've been meaning to spend more time with, somebody who was always one of the guys but due to changes in job and marital status, I no longer saw on a regular basis except for lunch every now and then. So I lost touch a bit and never learned he was terribly unhappy and had become severely withdrawn.

Today, as I look at the large crowd of family and friends gathered to grieve for their son/brother/father/friend who in the end lost hope and gave up on life, I can't stop thinking what if one of us had made that extra phone call. Would it have made a difference? Could I have made a difference?

Gonna miss ya, John.
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited May 2007
    I doubt it. I think this is why.

    Quote. Today, as I look at the large crowd of family and friends gathered.

    It appears that he had lots of family and friends that were even closer than you two were, so I doubt it was due to a lack of people that cared about him.

    Severe depression is a mental health issue, due mainly to a chemical imbalance that leaves the effected party without hope or happiness.

    Unless he would have listened to you and sought help nothing else you could have done or said to him would have mattered.

    My deepest sympathies.

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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited May 2007
    My condolances brother. These stories really hit home with me.
  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,668
    edited May 2007
    Snow's got it right: he apparently he had a close circle of friends and family whom he either chose not to confide in, or whose help wasn't enough.

    Doubt you could have made a difference.

    If you're at all close to those people, the thing to do now would be to let them know you're there for them if they need you. As much as you're hurting and questioning yourself, they must be 10 times worse.

    And God rest your friend's soul; he's already spent his time in Hell.
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited May 2007
    Sorry to hear.
    My condolences.
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  • Polk65
    Polk65 Posts: 1,405
    edited May 2007
    It's always hard on those we leave behind. Second guessing won't do you any good. We're all here for a short time and no one really knows when their time will be. Do the best you can each day but also allow some free time each day too. Condolences for the loss of your friend John.
  • Fireman32
    Fireman32 Posts: 4,845
    edited May 2007
    sory about the loss of your friend.
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited May 2007
    sorry for your loss..

    but I think one person can make a difference.. lonliness can be very depressing if that's what he suffered from. but really.. how much effort does it take to call someone you haven't heard from in a while?

    I think we can all find 10 mins in our lives to call someone.. i am guilty of it too.
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited May 2007
    Sorry to hear about your friend. I have had those same thoughts many times over the years. The end result, sadly to say, would probably be the same.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited May 2007
    Condolences.
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  • jflail2
    jflail2 Posts: 2,868
    edited May 2007
    Sorry to hear that :(
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited May 2007
    Condolences..sorry.
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  • Bill Ayotte
    Bill Ayotte Posts: 1,860
    edited May 2007
    I'm sorry to hear about that man....Don't blame yourself, some people attempt that for attention....Some are serious about it, and that is a shame...One thing I have learned through a couple of different situations is that once people are committed to doing this, there is very little you can do to stop them. It's a shame that happened...Don't look back and say to yourself "Wow, I noticed this or that but thought it was no big deal..." hindsight is always 20/20...Just remember the good times man, and what you saw in hindsight...You may be able to help someone else down the road...
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,536
    edited May 2007
    Sorry to hear that man. Deep depression is a very difficult thing to "help" with. I had a very close friend commit suicide 2 years ago after he and his wife were involved in a bad car accident that took her life. He just couldn't go on without her, plain & simple---I respect that, she was the love of his life.

    I often asked myself if I should have called him more often after the accident, stopped by more often, etc, etc...

    Drop that bag of bricks. Sure, it's good to be there for friends, but you also have a responsiblity to your family, life, etc. Rest easy.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited May 2007
    Sorry to hear of your loss. Nothing you could do, just the way it is.
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  • bionicmushroom
    bionicmushroom Posts: 73
    edited May 2007
    Sorry to hear about your loss bro. When I was alot younger I was out partying with a friend and he decided to go into town and at the last minute I decided to go home and get some sleep so he dropped me off. Later that night he was in an accident and died. Everyone was calling my house because they thought I was with him as usual but this time I wasnt. I often wondered if I was with him if there would have been anything at all I could have done. In the end the answer is no. We both would have probally lost our lives that night. Even though we were really close friends I finally realized that he probally wouldnt have listened to me, his mind was made up and he paid the ultimate price. You never actually fully know someone is what I figure. You cant gaurentee what any certain person will do when put into the right position.
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  • Bamadude
    Bamadude Posts: 245
    edited May 2007
    Man I'm so sorry to hear that.

    one of my closest life long friends took the same path March 16th 05. several of us had the opportunity to go over and talk to him the night before when we knew he was depressed but ended up not going for whatever reason. the next few weeks and months were some of the darkest days of my life.

    But here's what we learned about suicide ***please, everyone listen in case you're in this position one day*** my friend was not the depressed type at all. He was always fun and full of life and had so much going for him. The problems started only a few days before hand. He just had several thoughts about work that all of a sudden became obsessive. Pay attention to people who have odd/sudden changes in behavior no matter how much you think they would never take their life. I'm serious, he was the last person we thought could ever do such a thing. And often it's the people who don't talk about it that end up really doing it.

    Like other's have said, hind sight is 20/20 so you can't blame yourself. Remember the good times with your friend and try to help others learn the warning signs.

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  • dudeinaroom
    dudeinaroom Posts: 3,609
    edited May 2007
    Sorry to hear of your loss, hang in there.
  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited May 2007
    Thx, ya'll.


    in this proud land we grew up strong
    we were wanted all along
    I was taught to fight, taught to win
    I never thought I could fail

    no fight left or so it seems
    I am a man whose dreams have all deserted
    I've changed my face, I've changed my name
    but no one wants you when you lose

    don't give up
    'cos you have friends
    don't give up
    you're not beaten yet
    don't give up
    I know you can make it good

    though I saw it all around
    never thought I could be affected
    thought that we'd be the last to go
    it is so strange the way things turn

    drove the night toward my home
    the place that I was born, on the lakeside
    as daylight broke, I saw the earth
    the trees had burned down to the ground
    don't give up
    you still have us
    don't give up
    we don't need much of anything
    don't give up
    'cause somewhere there's a place
    where we belong

    rest your head
    you worry too much
    it's going to be alright
    when times get rough
    you can fall back on us
    don't give up
    please don't give up

    'got to walk out of here
    I can't take anymore
    going to stand on that bridge
    keep my eyes down below
    whatever may come
    and whatever may go
    that river's flowing
    that river's flowing

    moved on to another town
    tried hard to settle down
    for every job, so many men
    so many men no-one needs

    don't give up
    'cause you have friends
    don't give up
    you're not the only one
    don't give up
    no reason to be ashamed
    don't give up
    you still have us
    don't give up now
    we're proud of who you are
    don't give up
    you know it's never been easy
    don't give up
    'cause I believe there's a place
    there's a place where we belong