Proud new owner...OF A STATION WAGON!

JoshParsons84
JoshParsons84 Posts: 565
edited April 2007 in Car Audio & Electronics
I know it sucks but hey there wasn't much of an option for me at this current time. My wife likes it, it suits me fine being a 5-speed and it's not bad looking for a station wagon. It's a 96 Saturn SW1 with 6 3/4" in the fronts and 6 3/4 in the rear hatch. Now...what kinda system can we do with that? I still would like to have either Polk SR6500's, Alpine Type X or Rockford Fosgate Power T162S? I know you'll say the Polk's but what kinda custom sub thing can we do in the back and still be able to keep my space to get groceries and everything? This is the dilemma I'm in.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited April 2007
    Dude, you have a station wagon...theres like a million different possibilities for a custom sub enclosure!
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited April 2007
    Yes there is.... the nice thing is that the bass will not have to go through the seats, so a smaller driver can also be used.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited April 2007
    Definitely. Subs and hatchbacks offer endless possibilities.

    Check out JL Stealthboxes or some other vehicle specific enclosures. I dont know if they have one for your model but if they do they can give you some ideas.
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  • PoweredByDodge
    PoweredByDodge Posts: 4,185
    edited April 2007
    .... and the vastly increased interior air space means he'll need more subs to actually get the same 'boom' of a single sub in a small cab. And now we know why an 80's pickup truck with an all steel tiny cab is so damn phat.
    The Artist formerly known as PoweredByDodge
  • JoshParsons84
    JoshParsons84 Posts: 565
    edited April 2007
    JL Audio? Hmm...interesting. They have some pretty hard hitting subs. Is that the sub and custom enclosure or just the enclosure. I would still like to keep Polk all the way around.
  • JoshParsons84
    JoshParsons84 Posts: 565
    edited April 2007
    Looked at the Stealbox. Guess what? Nothing for a Saturn whatsoever. So what else can we do? I'm actually going to pick up my check in a minute, and I'm gonna ask my car installers up there what we can do. Then after I get back in a little bit I'll report back and tell y'all what I've come up with and see what y'all think or if y'all have any other suggestions.
  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited April 2007
    I used to sell Saturns back in the day. Good little cars and safe.
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    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited April 2007
    Wingnut... the next time you stop a Saturn on the highway for speeding.... give the guy a break and tell him that the ONLY reason you are letting him go is because he is driving a Saturn.

    I can seriously picture you as a Saturn Sales Representative. I think that is a better calling for you than catching bad guys.

    - Ron
  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited April 2007
    rskarvan wrote: »
    Wingnut... the next time you stop a Saturn on the highway for speeding.... give the guy a break and tell him that the ONLY reason you are letting him go is because he is driving a Saturn.




    I can seriously picture you as a Saturn Sales Representative. I think that is a better calling for you than catching bad guys.

    - Ron

    Me too:D
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • Bill Ayotte
    Bill Ayotte Posts: 1,860
    edited April 2007
    I can't bust on the wagons, I am looking to buy a R36 Passat wagon....
  • JoshParsons84
    JoshParsons84 Posts: 565
    edited April 2007
    Well if there's a million different possibilities I still cant think of one. Can anybody give me some suggestions on some kind of a custom enclosure so I still dont lose grocery space, cause this still has to be a grocery getter also.
  • dudeinaroom
    dudeinaroom Posts: 3,609
    edited April 2007
    .... and the vastly increased interior air space means he'll need more subs to actually get the same 'boom' of a single sub in a small cab. And now we know why an 80's pickup truck with an all steel tiny cab is so damn phat.

    not really in a car you have to go through the back seats. Also in a car you have compression in the trunk which will eat a few dbs. Station wagons are awesome for systems. I had one when I was 16-17 with 2 12' kicker comps eating only 75 watts, a lot of my friends had 10's, 12's with 200 watts and I was as loud if not louder than most of them. On another note I had a friend that I built a 6th order band pass for it was in a thunderbird and It took up a good chunk of the trunk the funny thing was if you hit the trunk pop button the system would get twice as loud, and that is how I found out about compression. so if your gonna use a band pass in your trunk have the port(s) going thru the read deck to help avoid compression.
  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited April 2007
    A small enclosure with a solid 10" sub should do the trick. Wont eat up too much space and will still give you good output.

    You can also try a very good 8" sub. The RL-i8 from Soundsplinter can go into a very small box, and can sound still get loud.

    http://www.soundsplinter.com/rli8_subwoofer_information.html

    I had the 10" version and was very happy with both the output and sound. Great bang for the buck sub.

    http://www.soundsplinter.com/rli10_subwoofer_information.html
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    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
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    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited April 2007
    tcsounds makes great subs as well.
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited April 2007
    Those are TC Sounds built subs......the RL-i's are based on the TC2+ motor.
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
    KnuKonceptz
    Second Skin
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited April 2007
    and the tcsounds are cheaper :)
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • JoshParsons84
    JoshParsons84 Posts: 565
    edited April 2007
    What about one of the Kicker solo's? 8" or 10"
  • JoshParsons84
    JoshParsons84 Posts: 565
    edited April 2007
    Or one 10" SR104-DVC?
  • dudeinaroom
    dudeinaroom Posts: 3,609
    edited April 2007
    or how about 6 6.5ers in a sealed box
  • JoshParsons84
    JoshParsons84 Posts: 565
    edited April 2007
    Are you joking or are you serious?
  • dudeinaroom
    dudeinaroom Posts: 3,609
    edited April 2007
    why not with that many you should still be able to go fairly deep and definatly keep up the SQ.
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited April 2007
    Maybe so, but youd eat up a lot more room with a box big enough for 6, 6.5's.

    I suggest a good 12" with at least 500 watts.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited April 2007
    Shoot, man, now that you've got all that space for a sub, I'd most definitely go with MTX's 30 some odd inch subwoofer!!

    :D:D:D
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited April 2007
    I think that a solid 10" woofer will be very effective in both ouput, and conserving space.
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
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  • JoshParsons84
    JoshParsons84 Posts: 565
    edited April 2007
    audiobliss wrote: »
    Shoot, man, now that you've got all that space for a sub, I'd most definitely go with MTX's 30 some odd inch subwoofer!!

    :D:D:D

    LOL Are you talking about the MTX Jackhammer? Dude I seen that on Pimp My Ride and that's freaking insane! How about a Polk SR 12"? Where can I hide that so I can still keep all my space? Also I have the wife and kids ride with me too, my rear speakers are in the hatch door what could I put in there to blend seamlessly with my SR6500 up front?
  • Greg Peters
    Greg Peters Posts: 605
    edited April 2007
    You could go with any 10 or 12" sub, sealed, and get nice solid output in the wagon. If you want to conserve some cargo space, there are a number of 10s (the Polk SR104 comes to mind) that will do very well in a nice 1 cubic foot sealed box. An SR124 will cost you 1.25 cubic feet of space in a sealed application.

    You could build that as a wedge-shaped enclosure, with the back of the enclosure butting up against the rear seatback, sub facing rearwards towards tailgate. You could also go with fiberglass and save even more space (but that'll up the cost/labour factor). Either way, that's a fairly small box that'll provide some nice SQ-oriented output and not consume massive amounts of cargo space.
  • JoshParsons84
    JoshParsons84 Posts: 565
    edited April 2007
    Well I dunno what I should do yet. How about we go 1 step at a time shall we? I might have the money to do every bit of it tomorrow, and then again I might not have the money till next week it's just that crazy having 5 kids. First thing's first...I have to get rid of the piece of **** factory tape deck.
  • JoshParsons84
    JoshParsons84 Posts: 565
    edited April 2007
    I'm also wanting to fix up the motor and suspension and everything a little bit also, so I have to take that into stereo budget consideration too.
  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited April 2007
    Whao. You have a station wagon. A SATURN station wagon. And you're going to dump money into the engine and the suspension??

    Wow.
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    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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  • JoshParsons84
    JoshParsons84 Posts: 565
    edited April 2007
    audiobliss wrote: »
    Whao. You have a station wagon. A SATURN station wagon. And you're going to dump money into the engine and the suspension??

    Wow.

    What? Why you say wow for?