Got the sub hooked up.

MSALLA
MSALLA Posts: 1,602
I finally had the time to get my sub hooked up. It's a svs 12.1 driver (purchased on here) in a 48" x 16" sonotube. I have it hooked to an outlaw m200 amp (325w @ 4ohm). It sounds great. Not boomy and pulls much lower then my PSW 303. However, I was expecting it to have more volume (louder). Not sure if it's not enough power but SVS told me to use 300wpc. Any suggestions?
Michael


Samsung 50" HD DLP
Yamaha RX-V2500
(2) Outlaw 200
Adcom GFA 555
Sony BDP300
Denon 2900 DVD
Lsi9's mains
Lsi7's rear
Lsic center
12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
Harmony 880
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited April 2007
    I have the 12.1 with a Rythmik audio amp. 380@4ohms in a 4.2cuft incloser. No..the 12.1 is not loud, but it does preasurize my 16' x 22' x 8' room pretty well.
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


    Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek:
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited April 2007
    The amp should provide plenty of power. Play around with placement. How big is your room? If you have a fairly large room, your experience is understandable.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited April 2007
    25' x 12' x 9' room. It sounds great and I can live with it, but I was hopeing for more.
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited April 2007
    That's a big room treat you self to another.:D
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited April 2007
    Might be several things...ping Ed or Tom. Off the top my head, it could be the room/placement (1st choice), but maybe it's a combination of the tube volume and amp with no rumble filter. Without protection below 16hz, you might be wasting power trying to make the driver go beyond it's limits (that's a total guess, I'm dangerous not knowledgeable). I'd think you should probably max out volume ~ 106-109dbs.

    Have you run any tones to find out what your FR is?

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited April 2007
    Ron Temple wrote: »

    Have you run any tones to find out what your FR is?

    Not yet. I should have time tomorrow.
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
  • Schwingding
    Schwingding Posts: 363
    edited April 2007
    Thats a big room to expect a lot of volume from a single driver sub.
    HT/music rig
    Panasonic PX60U 50" plasma
    Yamaha 5990 AVR
    Onix SP3 tube amp
    bunch of Outlaw 2200 monoblocks
    DUAL SVS PB12+/2 subs :eek:
    Denon 3910 DVD/SACD/DVD-A
    DirecTV HR10-250 DVR
    Onix Strata Mini mains
    Mirage OM10 surrounds
    Polk CSi5 center
    Polk SC80 rear surrounds
    Samsung BDP1000 blu-ray player

    Bedroom rig
    Jolida SJ302a tube amp
    Denon 2910 universal player
    Onix Ref 1 monitors
    Velodyne minivee
  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited April 2007
    I am thinking the same thing. I guess it's time to build another one.
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited April 2007
    MSALLA wrote: »
    I am thinking the same thing. I guess it's time to build another one.

    Great idea. For that size room, two sonosubs would be awesome. Plus, for 2-channel, you'll have stereo subs. Oh, yeah!
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited April 2007
    This is going to take some jewelry to counter the negative WAF.
    Keep in mind, this is in my living room. Two black tubes just shy of 5 foot is not going to go over well.
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited April 2007
    this is very common as people are coming from lesser quality subwoofer and then replace them with the likes of an SVS.. they say the sound isn't as loud..
    well you can always raise the volume.. but in the end.. the subwoofer is just doing what it was built to do.. dig low and deep.. ie: more accurate than alot of other subs.

    crank the sub to your liiking. you will not damage it.. people always run their subwoofers hotter than the rest of their speakers... crank it up!!!!!
    PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited April 2007
    danger boy wrote: »
    this is very common as people are coming from lesser quality subwoofer and then replace them with the likes of an SVS.. they say the sound isn't as loud..
    well you can always raise the volume.. but in the end.. the subwoofer is just doing what it was built to do.. dig low and deep.. ie: more accurate than alot of other subs.

    crank the sub to your liiking. you will not damage it.. people always run their subwoofers hotter than the rest of their speakers... crank it up!!!!!


    +1000

    People are used to hearing that annoying 40-70hz loudness. The SVS has a very flat Fr responce way below 40hz. With a proper rumble filter (like on my Rythmik audio amp) , the SVS sub can reach levels of dBs way beyond most. And once you get used to the "dissapearence" of the SVS, the other "subs" just seem like hollow coffins.
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


    Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek:
  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited April 2007
    I was wondeing about that. I never had a good sub before. The best was the Psw 303 I just replaced. It sounds great and I feel it more than hear it. I guess it is more my lack of knowledge then anything else.
    Can I buy a rumble filter by itself?
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited April 2007
    After a vey bad day at work, I got home and had a 1/2hour by myself. I poped in a cd and played with the settings. HOLY BASS!!!!!!
    Much more musical then the polk sub. Clean crisp tight bass. I still my make another one because , well lets face it, it would be very cool.
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880