Simmons Says 3 Ephithets Should Be Banned

hearingimpared
hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
edited April 2007 in The Clubhouse
Here is a refreshing story that kind of parallels the "I Love HipHop" thread but in a good way.

The only problem I see with it is it may infringe on freedom of speech.
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited April 2007
    Sounds like more he is asking record companies to choose to ban the words.
  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,602
    edited April 2007
    Here is a refreshing story that kind of parallels the "I Love HipHop" thread but in a good way.

    The only problem I see with it is it may infringe on freedom of speech.


    Freedom of speech? That's not what they had in mind writing the Constitution.
    Someone had to stretch the meaning to protect the words and phrases in question, I'm sure.
    There's more than enough laws on the books already on this. Adding more won't help.
    The link didn't go to that story.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
  • strider
    strider Posts: 2,568
    edited April 2007
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    The link didn't go to that story.


    That's wierd, it works fine for me.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited April 2007
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    Freedom of speech? That's not what they had in mind writing the Constitution.
    Someone had to stretch the meaning to protect the words and phrases in question, I'm sure.
    There's more than enough laws on the books already on this. Adding more won't help.
    The link didn't go to that story.

    When I click the link it goes to the Simmons story????:confused:
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited April 2007
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    Freedom of speech? That's not what they had in mind writing the Constitution.
    Someone had to stretch the meaning to protect the words and phrases in question, I'm sure.
    There's more than enough laws on the books already on this. Adding more won't help.
    The link didn't go to that story.

    What did they have in mind?
  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited April 2007
    As long as he's just urging the record companies to do it. If he's trying to do anything legal, he can kiss my ****. You can't ban language. Any of it. Ever read 1984? C'mon.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,602
    edited April 2007
    Interesting. Now I see the story. There was a different story showing when I looked, and didn't see it listed. Now it's back.
    Banning the words won't really work ,anyhow. They dropped laid off, went to
    downsizing, then rightsizing, still it has the same negative ring to it.
    I still call used cars used cars. Pre-owned is nonsense.
    They'll just use a new term that will mean the same thing. It's the
    negative attitude that remains.
    Free speech was meant to protect our right to criticize government
    and lawmakers, free exchange of ideas, etc. Vulgar song lyrics
    weren't on their mind.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited April 2007
    Sucks2beme...

    It's funny you should mention chasing our tail with euphemisms. My first job out of college was as a repo man...
    which became collections....
    which became account manager....
    which became on-time renewal specialist.

    I still got called the same four-letter words whenever I showed up at someone's door regardless of my title.
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,602
    edited April 2007
    A bunch of Non-majority individuals singing about un-clean women
    and short term companionship contractors?
    Un-good, I tell you. Very un-good.
    They may find themselves up an unsanitary tributary
    with no means of locomotion.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited April 2007
    Doubleplusungood.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,790
    edited April 2007
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    A bunch of Non-majority individuals singing about un-clean women
    and short term companionship contractors?
    Un-good, I tell you. Very un-good.
    They may find themselves up an unsanitary tributary
    with no means of locomotion.


    I'm offended by the terms "non-majority", "un-clean" and "short term companionship contractors" and wish to add them to the list of words which should be legally restricted.

    There are a large group of us in my area that agree with me, and we've convinced our local state representative to place this important matter before the state legislature. Our state rep assures us , because of political favors owed him, that this measure has a very good chance of being passed.

    When it is passed in our state, than other states will see our wisdom, and will follow suit. Soon, the entire nation will be protected from bad words and, soon, bad ideas. All defined, of course, by correct thinking groups of which I am a member.

    Trust me. I know what's good for you, even if you don't. ;)

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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited April 2007
    We can ban anything we want but the resulting words and phrases will be much worse. We just won't know what they mean.

    Lets hear a good Ho!
    (everyone) Ho!

    For whatever reason I love the B, N and H word in songs where it is meant as a term of endearment...

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  • Rivrrat
    Rivrrat Posts: 2,101
    edited April 2007
    I think banning is just a bit extreme here, what with the constitution and all. Encouraging the writers to maybe chose their words more carefully would be a better route.

    The best route is to just not buy that crap in the first place.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited April 2007
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    A bunch of Non-majority individuals singing about un-clean women
    and short term companionship contractors?
    Un-good, I tell you. Very un-good.
    They may find themselves up an unsanitary tributary
    with no means of locomotion.

    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited April 2007
    I'm offended by the terms "non-majority", "un-clean" and "short term companionship contractors" and wish to add them to the list of words which should be legally restricted.

    There are a large group of us in my area that agree with me, and we've convinced our local state representative to place this important matter before the state legislature. Our state rep assures us , because of political favors owed him, that this measure has a very good chance of being passed.

    When it is passed in our state, than other states will see our wisdom, and will follow suit. Soon, the entire nation will be protected from bad words and, soon, bad ideas. All defined, of course, by correct thinking groups of which I am a member.

    Trust me. I know what's good for you, even if you don't. ;)

    You don't want to find yourself up **** creek without a paddle, do you ? No ..
    ....I didn't think you did.


    Are you the head of the ACLU? LOL
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited April 2007
    madmax wrote: »
    For whatever reason I love the B, N and H word in songs where it is meant as a term of endearment...

    Those words are not terms of endearment. That's simply the bad argument some people offer to justify their use. How many people refer to their mothers respectfully as a "ho?" What is the positive connotation of the word? If you poll women and ask if they would like to referred as a "****" or a "ho," would the majority of them say, "Yes?" I seriously doubt it. How do you think your mother or sister would respond to that question? In fact, I'll bet those women who did choose "Yes" are more likely to be younger and probably suffer from self esteem issues.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited April 2007
    Agreed, they are not terms of endearment. They're "curse words". They're meant in a derogatory way. And know what? Every language has them. And if you ban them, more will be created. I'm sure 200 years ago the word **** meant nothing, and they had their own vulgarities and derogatory words which would be meaningless to us now. Ban the words all you want, it's a waste of your time.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited April 2007
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    I'm sure 200 years ago the word **** meant nothing, and they had their own vulgarities and derogatory words which would be meaningless to us now.

    I don't know about that. Picture some poor woman in a set of stocks 200 years ago in New England with a sign over head that reads:

    For Unlawful Carnel Knoweldge

    Or another woman who has a sign over the threashold of her home in merry old England:

    Fornication Under Consent of the King

    LOL

    Curse words come and go and evolve and transform into nothing and then they start over again. Afterall when you call some one a bastage are you calling that person a ****? **** these days is a **** right! The original meaning has changed since the English bastardized the Irish and Scottish peasants they sought to rule.

    Words can be very hurtful but you can't ban them!
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited April 2007
    Report back to us after lovingly addressing your mother or sister as a **** or ho what their reactions are.

    Providing if you are still alive.
    madmax wrote: »
    We can ban anything we want but the resulting words and phrases will be much worse. We just won't know what they mean.

    Lets hear a good Ho!
    (everyone) Ho!

    For whatever reason I love the B, N and H word in songs where it is meant as a term of endearment...

    madmax
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