Speaker Upgrade from LSi's

pmckeealaska
pmckeealaska Posts: 808
edited April 2007 in Speakers
OK, right now I have a full LSi HT setup, but am thinking of investing in a new dedicated 2 channel rig. What do folks think would be the next "step up" in quality from the Lsi if one was looking to spend about 5K for a pair of speakers?
Music and Movie Rig

Samsung 40" HDTV 1080p
LSi25 Front Speakers
LSiC Center Channel
LSiFX Surrounds
Rotel RB 1080 2-Channel Amp
NAD T763 Reciever
Denon DVD 2900 Universal Player

Audiosource 10 Band Digital Equalizer
Audioquest CV-8 speaker cables
Audioquest Sub-X subwoofer cables
Audioquest King Cobra Interconnects

Monster AVS 2000 Voltage Stabilizer
Playstation 3 120GB Slim
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  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited April 2007
    B&W 700 or 800 series
    2 CHANNEL
    Speaker - Klipsch Heresy II
    Under construction
  • jusdrink
    jusdrink Posts: 38
    edited April 2007
    b&w are great speakers depends on your budget though i just upgrade and in my budget i ended up with the paradigm studio 100v4 for the money and sounds quality i ended up with these if i had more money to spend i would of went with the 703's but i didnt hear much sound difference between the two just my opinion.
  • dane_peterson
    dane_peterson Posts: 1,903
    edited April 2007
    Check out Tyler Acoustics. A very popular and increasingly common step up for many diehard polkies.
  • Bill Ayotte
    Bill Ayotte Posts: 1,860
    edited April 2007
    What about that sick **** pair of Gallo's Venom just picked up? You could get a new set with the sub amp for under 5K........They are Gallo reference 3.1.
  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited April 2007
    B&W 802d, and yes Tylers are sweet. I would go for the linbrook signatures.
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  • dane_peterson
    dane_peterson Posts: 1,903
    edited April 2007
    What about that sick **** pair of Gallo's Venom just picked up? You could get a new set with the sub amp for under 5K........They are Gallo reference 3.1.

    I don't know. The Gallos definitely have an upper hand on the LSis in a couple areas, but overall I wouldn't consider them too much of an upgrade. At least in a price/performance aspect. They do look pretty sexy, though.
  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited April 2007
    Well of course I recommend the Gallos. I demoed the B&W 804's before I went with the Gallos, the 804's are great speakers, but the Gallos had them beat pretty much in every area. And I am B&W fan. The only speaker I might prefer over the 3.1's is the Sonus Faber Cremona at 8K. The PMC OB1 also was very nice at $5500. Go and do some intensive demo's to see what you like the best. But whatever you demo, be sure they are broken in.
    V
  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited April 2007
    I'd love to hear those gallos
    2 CHANNEL
    Speaker - Klipsch Heresy II
    Under construction
  • Bill Ayotte
    Bill Ayotte Posts: 1,860
    edited April 2007
    JimBRICK wrote: »
    I'd love to hear those gallos

    As would I......God those are sexy. :D
  • Pepi28
    Pepi28 Posts: 248
    edited April 2007
    What about Von Schweikert VR4jr's? Folk's here tell me they are a huge step up from the LSi series. I plan on getting mine within a few months.
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    LSi15's front (modded xo's)
    LSic center
    LSiFX's sides
    LSi7's rears
    Sunfire Sig. 600 amp for 15's
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    Sony ES 3000 pre/pro
    SVS 2039 PC Plus sub 12.3 (16hz tune)
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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited April 2007
    JimBRICK wrote: »
    I'd love to hear those gallos

    Go to roundsound.com and see if there is a dealer near you. Just leave your wallet and credit cards behind to be on the safe side :)
    V
  • TennesseeOutlaw
    TennesseeOutlaw Posts: 414
    edited April 2007
  • jm1
    jm1 Posts: 618
    edited April 2007
    If I had 5K and wanted to upgrade the two channel performance, I would incorporate a two channel preamp with HT pass through into the system. The LSi speakers have excellent sonic characteristics which will carry you through several equipment upgrades. I would also remove the equalizer from the two channel path.

    The analog out from the Denon would be connected to the two channel preamp, the L+R from the receiver to the HT pass through and the preamp would feed the Rotel amp. Your two channel sources go directly through the two channel components and the HT uses both the multi and two channel components. Next I would upgrade the Rotel to a more refined amp of your preference. Only then would I make the move to new speakers.

    If you want a completely seperate system, that is another story.

    When I moved from the LSi's, I went to Dynaudio S1.4 then to Dynaudio C-1.
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  • pmckeealaska
    pmckeealaska Posts: 808
    edited April 2007
    OK...so what would be a good amp to replace my rotel? It would have to be under $2000.
    Music and Movie Rig

    Samsung 40" HDTV 1080p
    LSi25 Front Speakers
    LSiC Center Channel
    LSiFX Surrounds
    Rotel RB 1080 2-Channel Amp
    NAD T763 Reciever
    Denon DVD 2900 Universal Player

    Audiosource 10 Band Digital Equalizer
    Audioquest CV-8 speaker cables
    Audioquest Sub-X subwoofer cables
    Audioquest King Cobra Interconnects

    Monster AVS 2000 Voltage Stabilizer
    Playstation 3 120GB Slim
  • jm1
    jm1 Posts: 618
    edited April 2007
    I am not sure what you are familiar with, but a few that come to mind that I am familiar with are:
    • Ayre
    • Bryston
    • Conrad Johnson
    • Classe
    • Krell – my least favorite of the group
    • Mark Levinson
    • Musical Fidelity
    • Simaudio
    I have had limited exposure to this:
    • YBA
    Another of interest may be:
    • Plinius
    There is a forum member who has the Plinius and I believe he has posted some comments on this.

    If you are receptive to having an integrated amp in your system, the Simaudio I-7 is an outstanding piece of equipment.

    In the end, I choose the Simaudio P-5 and W-3 components for my system. The Rotel components along with the Dynaudio S1.4 are used for the second system the kids mainly use. Dora the Explorer sounds very good.

    I am sure there are many others. Browse through Audiogon to get an idea of units available. This would be a good place to get some great equipment at outstanding prices.
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  • audioblonde
    audioblonde Posts: 13
    edited April 2007
  • mulveling
    mulveling Posts: 505
    edited April 2007
    The Tylers are an excellent upgrade for the money. Buy them used on the 'gon from another audio junkie or from Ty himself. It's a very worthwhile difference over the LSi IMO. I also love my Legacy Signature III (right under $5K), but they need the right amp to really shine...and right for me that means the Parasound JC-1 monoblocks (though the Halo A21 also did quite well for the money). Unfortunately the Sig III's were recently discontinued, but the new Classic HD should be superb...probably offering a sweet fullrange sound with no subwoofer necessary like the rest of the line...if I were you I'd seriously consider those and a new amp ;)
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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited April 2007
    OK...so what would be a good amp to replace my rotel? It would have to be under $2000.

    Amps have a different "house sound" and Pros & Cons. There are many factors to consider and synergy is important. Get the "best" amp you can afford to cover any future speaker upgrades.
    V
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited April 2007
    Ill 3rd, 4th, or 5th the Tyler Acoustics rec - lost count as I skimmed...

    Definite upgrade over the LSi.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited April 2007
    F Tyler, F Von Schweikert, F them all. You don't need no stinkin' Danes. ;)

    Enjoy the LSi's, they are world class speakers. Ronco that ****.

    Amps? Look at Plinius, Krell, Goldmund, YBA, Sim Audio, Belles, Classe, Mark Levinson, etc.

    Cheers,
    Russ
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  • marker
    marker Posts: 1,084
    edited April 2007
    For $5K, you should be able to get a dual sub version of this Stereophile Class A rated system:

    http://nhthifi.com/2006/s-s-ultimate.html

    and already have the power amps, stands, speaker wire and sub cables included with them to boot.

    Just add a pre-amp and source(s). :D
  • JoshParsons84
    JoshParsons84 Posts: 565
    edited April 2007
    N.H.T. - Not Home Theater
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited April 2007
    marker wrote: »
    For $5K, you should be able to get a dual sub version of this Stereophile Class A rated system:

    http://nhthifi.com/2006/s-s-ultimate.html

    and already have the power amps, stands, speaker wire and sub cables included with them to boot.

    Just add a pre-amp and source(s). :D

    Now that is an ugly speaker setup... wow
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited April 2007
    Ugly, but

    They sound real good, though.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited April 2007
    I like the dark better.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,015
    edited April 2007
    mulveling wrote: »
    The Tylers are an excellent upgrade for the money. Buy them used on the 'gon from another audio junkie or from Ty himself. It's a very worthwhile difference over the LSi IMO. I also love my Legacy Signature III (right under $5K), but they need the right amp to really shine...and right for me that means the Parasound JC-1 monoblocks (though the Halo A21 also did quite well for the money). Unfortunately the Sig III's were recently discontinued, but the new Classic HD should be superb...probably offering a sweet fullrange sound with no subwoofer necessary like the rest of the line...if I were you I'd seriously consider those and a new amp ;)

    Being the only other Legacy owner here....I can second this.You can find good dealer demo's with warrenty for cheap.Picked up my Focus 20/20 at a dealer in Wisconsin 6 months old,Retail was 7400. Grabbed them for 4000.Could not be happier.Of coarse in that price range,you only have a thousand or so choices.Get your ears on as many as you can.Good luck.
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    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

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    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

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    Grant Fidelity tube dac
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    lsi 9's
  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited April 2007
    I like the dark too. I heard this setup once and the sound was very warm but detailed. I liked the sound a lot.
    polkaudio RT35 Bookshelves
    polkaudio 255c-RT Inwalls
    polkaudio DSWPro550WI
    polkaudio XRT12 XM Tuner
    polkaudio RM6750 5.1

    Front projection, 2 channel, car audio... life is good!