What is Taboo to You?

Early B.
Early B. Posts: 7,900
edited April 2007 in 2 Channel Audio
I'm no audio expert, but a few things make me wanna scratch my balls and smell my finger. For instance, when I see a very nice setup with a glaring weak link in the chain -- usually the source.

One day I was reading through a nice web site where a guy designs, builds, and sells his own line of speakers. I won't mention the website, but the speakers were very impressive until I saw a picture of his listening room where he voices his speakers. My jaw dropped when he listed a $300 DVD player as his source. I've even been to an audio shop in Atlanta where the sources were $50 Radio Shack DVD players.

The other thing that puzzles me is when $5 speaker cables are used on $5,000 speakers.

What is taboo to you?
HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

"God grooves with tubes."
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited April 2007
    My Dad's entire system.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited April 2007
    doing Anything to an amp with the power ON :o
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • JoshParsons84
    JoshParsons84 Posts: 565
    edited April 2007
    Tuesday!
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  • JoshParsons84
    JoshParsons84 Posts: 565
    edited April 2007
    Girls **** animals! LOL!
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited April 2007
    george daniel wrote: »
    doing Anything to an amp with the power ON :o

    I have a feeling a story is behind that one.

    One that must be told... :)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited April 2007
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    I have a feeling a story is behind that one.

    One that must be told... :)

    All in due time,young man,, all in due time :) those tylers talkin to ya?:D
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited April 2007
    Sick minded people with totally obscure thoughts. I rest my case!
    Michael ;)
    In the beginning, all knowledge was new!
    NORTH of 60°
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited April 2007
    My entire system is currently unhooked - its undergoing an odd phase of where its missing a component (the preamp) and the Shanling direct is more than unexciting, so I would rather it be unplugged. ;)

    But it will be back in commission soon as I await my acoustic panels, preamp, and new speaker cables!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited April 2007
    Doro showing up unannounced in nothing but cowboy boots and astroglide.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • Bill Ayotte
    Bill Ayotte Posts: 1,860
    edited April 2007
    JoshParsons84 wrote: »
    Girls **** animals! LOL!

    What's wrong with a good donkey show?:p :D
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  • markmarc
    markmarc Posts: 2,309
    edited April 2007
    Bose
    Review Site_ (((AudioPursuit)))
    Founder/Publisher Affordable$$Audio 2006-13.
    Former Staff Member TONEAudio
    2 Ch. System
    Amplifiers: Parasound Halo P6 pre, Vista Audio i34, Peachtree amp500, Adcom GFP-565 GFA-535ii, 545ii, 555ii
    Digital: SimAudio HAD230 DAC, iMac 20in/Amarra,
    Speakers: Paradigm Performa F75, Magnepan .7, Totem Model 1's, ACI Emerald XL, Celestion Si Stands. Totem Dreamcatcher sub
    Analog: Technics SL-J2 w/Pickering 3000D, SimAudio LP5.3 phono pre
    Cable/Wires: Cardas, AudioArt, Shunyata Venom 3
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  • michael_w
    michael_w Posts: 2,813
    edited April 2007
    Hey, Kelly can be a horses name too!
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  • Bill Ayotte
    Bill Ayotte Posts: 1,860
    edited April 2007
    Haha....It's like a train wreck, I can't look away!
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  • JoshParsons84
    JoshParsons84 Posts: 565
    edited April 2007
    Figured that might get the group laughing a little bit.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,963
    edited April 2007
    Taboo???
    Hmmm......Rat shack cables on a 3 grand piece of gear
    People who don't get speaker placement
    Spending 10 g's on a projector and 500. bucks on speaks
    Asking the same question over and over
    Men in thongs..........
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited April 2007
    The dismantling of perfectly good working SDA's to sell the parts because people are to lazy to ship them when they want to sell them.

    Making franken-polks. I don't mind if people use left over drivers, etc. to make their own speakers, but altering a perfectly good Polk speaker because one thinks they can do it better really pisses me off, especially if they are SDA's.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    edited April 2007
    when it comes to hi-fi, no taboos.
    'specially since there really is such a thing as "synergy". Not just for cables.
    I make my own cables from CAT5 and magnet wire and they sound very good.

    Marketeers are shrewd, foisting a flawed logic that sounds good at first blush: e.g., "Expensive speakers need expensive cables."; "If you cannot hear the difference between cables, your system's not "revealing" enough (i.e., not good enough)." Ever hear the tale "the emperor's new clothes"?

    Listen.
    Trust your ears.
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  • TN_Polk_Lover
    TN_Polk_Lover Posts: 243
    edited April 2007
    TroyD wrote: »
    Doro showing up unannounced in nothing but cowboy boots and astroglide.

    BDT

    hmmmm, brettw22 might enjoy it. You could video them and then show it at the next Polk gathering with the subtitle "Polkfest Mountain" . . .

    Robert
    Robert
    zombie boy 2000 wrote:
    You are officially in the high-end of the deep-end of the top-end.

    Bonus Room Over Garage:
    Toshiba 27" CRT TV
    Digital Source: Sony DVP-NS3100ES
    DVR: Panasonic DMR-ES15
    Denon 3806 AV Receiver
    - L/R Preamp out to Parasound HCA-1200 Amp
    Polk RTi70's, CSi40 Center, RTi38 Side Surrounds, RTi38 Back Surrounds

    Living Room: (2ch only)
    TV: Sony KV20-FV12
    DVD Player: Sony DVP-NS715P
    Yamaha R9 Receiver Polk RTi38's
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  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited April 2007
    Anything that remotely resembles an equalizer.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited April 2007
    People saying that they want to scratch their balls and smell it because I use a $150 digital front end!:D :p
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  • riglehart
    riglehart Posts: 276
    edited April 2007
    Lossy compression. Why do music standards become lower as technology gets better?
    Jolida Tube
    Polk 11T, 7, 5, 5jr, 4
    Standard equip not worth bragging about.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    edited April 2007
    Anything that remotely resembles an equalizer.
    Oops, I didn't even think of those! Yup. Definitely anathema.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited April 2007
    Taboo...

    A great system with terrible wire management or poor speaker placement.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,963
    edited April 2007
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    People saying that they want to scratch their balls and smell it because I use a $150 digital front end!:D :p

    I do that anyway Joe...whats the biggie??:D
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • Schwingding
    Schwingding Posts: 363
    edited April 2007
    Taboo to me? Anything sexual involving the "bad place", and I'm not talking about McDonald's.
    HT/music rig
    Panasonic PX60U 50" plasma
    Yamaha 5990 AVR
    Onix SP3 tube amp
    bunch of Outlaw 2200 monoblocks
    DUAL SVS PB12+/2 subs :eek:
    Denon 3910 DVD/SACD/DVD-A
    DirecTV HR10-250 DVR
    Onix Strata Mini mains
    Mirage OM10 surrounds
    Polk CSi5 center
    Polk SC80 rear surrounds
    Samsung BDP1000 blu-ray player

    Bedroom rig
    Jolida SJ302a tube amp
    Denon 2910 universal player
    Onix Ref 1 monitors
    Velodyne minivee
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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited April 2007
    Spending $$$$ on home theatre equipment; 5 lifetimes spent to configure and tweak; and 2 lifetimes to keep it all dust free only to find the wife watching reruns of CSI on it.

    :confused:
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited April 2007
    I had a guy over to demo a NAD amp I was selling. He's telling me about his HT with LSis all-around and some other things he said made me think he was fairly knowledgeable about audio gear.

    Then, in the middle of listening, he starts messing the speaker cables and instead of just asking what the bridged - stereo switch did, he tried flipping it over to mono with everything plugged in and running.

    I jumped with a scared-shitless look on my face and turned the whole rig off. Luckily, there was a plastic safety tab to keep it from getting moved over without removing a screw first. . . so THANK YOU NAD for idiot proofing the switch.

    That, my friends, is taboo.
    Stereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
    Bedroom: Samsung HPR-4252, Toshiba HD-A2, HK 3480, Signal Cable, AQ speaker cable, Totem Dreamcatchers, SVS PB10-NSD, URC MX-850
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited April 2007
    There was a mother and young child in my house a few days ago. When they left, I noticed some oily liquid-type stuff that had dripped on top of my amp.

    Another taboo -- the wife pressing every conceivable button and not knowing what the hell she's doing. Arrrgghhhh!
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • Music Joe
    Music Joe Posts: 459
    edited April 2007
    Real plants on top of speakers...hell even near the gear.Can that count as one?

    A more pending matter has appeared before the man-law radar.
    I hereby bring up a point of order for consideration;
    Yes we all do it,even those with 2 prostetic arms...the thing of which we do not speak. Yes fellow man-law brothers,"the scratch and sniff".
    I propose the new term "the nether-test" did I hear "AYE Brother!" ...or was it

    Uhh...mmm..eh,eh,eh,yes,yes,that's the spot :eek::eek: Vicker.
    "The Web is a monoblog"
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  • John K.
    John K. Posts: 822
    edited April 2007
    EB, one taboo should be when someone allows themselves to be taken advantage of by the charlatans in the business who've learned how profitable it can be to never underestimate the gullibility of some audiophiles. Mention of the $50 player reminds me of the tongue-in-cheek comments of Dr. Geddes at the Rocky Mountain Audio Fest about some reactions he got when displaying his speakers(about $3,200 each)there.
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