Sub Port or PR

ben62670
ben62670 Posts: 15,969
edited April 2007 in DIY, Mods & Tweaks
I will be using an Adcom GFA-555 for my DIY sub with a 15" Dayton Mark III, and 3 12" Polk PR's. A GFA-555 put out 850 watts clean bridged. While this may be a bit much, I also have a GFA-585 to drive 2 subs at 400 watts. We'll see what happens in the real world. First passive project besides SDA-SRS's.
Anyone do anything like this?

Any input from users of both type would be appreciated.
Thanks Ben
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited April 2007
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited April 2007
    How big is the encloser? Too small or too big of an encloser I feel will muddy the bass responce and when using 3 12" PR, the resistance has to be perfect or everything would just be "flopping" around.
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,194
    edited April 2007
    Quite an ambitious project. Your enclosure has to be huge :eek: to take advantage of that much surface area. Might be overkill to have that many PR's and a 15" woofer.

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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited April 2007
    The woofer is 15 inches, and has 2 inches of stroke. It calls for a 6 cubic foot cabinet which is roughly 17*17*44. The passive only have about an inch of travel. I know I would have to add a little weight to tune them to 19hz to match the woofer. I was thinking of putting the 3 Pr's in front to match the phase of my SDA-SRS's PR's
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited April 2007
    Sounds like fun! Frequency sweeps will be your friend when trying to dial that thing in.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited April 2007
    My other Idea was to 16" sonotube at 50" with a 4" port on top which would also give me a tune of 19hz.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited April 2007
    PolkThug wrote: »
    Sounds like fun! Frequency sweeps will be your friend when trying to dial that thing in.

    Yep a lot of taking the pr's out weighting them and putting them back in.

    Here is the woofer
    http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=295-420
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited April 2007
    ben62670 wrote: »
    My other Idea was to 16" sonotube at 50" with a 4" port on top which would also give me a tune of 19hz.

    I think this idea will give you better responce than the Pr's

    The problem I have is that every Pr encloser I have seen and delt with includes a larger Pr than the driver. I have never seen it done the other way around.
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


    Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek:
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  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited April 2007
    ben62670 wrote: »
    My other Idea was to 16" sonotube at 50" with a 4" port on top which would also give me a tune of 19hz.

    You will need 6-8" of port to be able to handle the amount of air that your 15" driver is going to move.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited April 2007
    jakelm wrote: »
    I think this idea will give you better responce than the Pr's

    The problem I have is that every Pr encloser I have seen and delt with includes a larger Pr than the driver. I have never seen it done the other way around.

    Yeah I have 3 12"s already, and I used 2 10's with my SDA-SRS project, and it worked good. The thing I like about the smaller pr's is that they respond quicker. It would also look pretty cool with 3 twelves facing forward too. But I am more about performance than looks.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited April 2007
    tryrrthg wrote: »
    You will need 6-8" of port to be able to handle the amount of air that your 15" driver is going to move.

    I ran WINisd, and a couple other programs, and was recommended by PE to use the 4" flared port. That is another reason I was thinking about PR's. A 4" port with woofer that "15" MKIII will sweep over 3 liters of air! " means an awful lot of port velocity.
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited April 2007
    Where did you steal the 585? LOL

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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited April 2007
    engtaz wrote: »
    Where did you steal the 585? LOL

    engtaz

    Ebay
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited April 2007
    You going to buy me one???? LOL:D :D:D:p

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  • dudeinaroom
    dudeinaroom Posts: 3,609
    edited April 2007
    I want one too. If you get bored with the sub project just send it to me(jump on yahoo I'll give you my address) j/k. 3 12" PR's is about right for a 15". You might be able to get away with tuning it lower, and still end up with good results. Man I wish I lived down there, I'd love to be a part of that project, and you'd have an extra hand for fixing the computers at work:)
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited April 2007
    dudeinaroom wrote: »
    I want one too. If you get bored with the sub project just send it to me(jump on yahoo I'll give you my address) j/k. 3 12" PR's is about right for a 15". You might be able to get away with tuning it lower, and still end up with good results. Man I wish I lived down there, I'd love to be a part of that project, and you'd have an extra hand for fixing the computers at work:)

    Come on down!
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  • dudeinaroom
    dudeinaroom Posts: 3,609
    edited April 2007
    Not working, so there is no way I have the fundage. I've been looking since the end of January, and there is nothing. I don't have the money to move anywhere so I am kinda stuck. If I had the money I would be there in a second, I'm sick of this cold weather. oh well life goes on.
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