Audiosource question?

chadjessie@hotm
chadjessie@hotm Posts: 101
edited April 2007 in Electronics
I have read that these amps are pretty decent. Just noticed this one on ebay but was curious if anybody knew anything about this particular model. Seems like it has pretty respectable numbers for the price. Let me know if you can. Thanks ;)http://cgi.ebay.com/AudioSource-2-CH-Class-T-Digital-Stereo-Power-Amplifier_W0QQitemZ120105685108QQihZ002QQcategoryZ39783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
From the makers of Carver? Is that true?
Silversmoky
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited April 2007
    chadjessie@hotm wrote: »
    From the makers of Carver? Is that true?

    Don't forget Bob Carver left his namesake company to form Sunfire.

    Phoenix Gold now own the Carver brand.
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited April 2007
    Numbers look good.But if it looks too good to be true...........
    Michael


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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited April 2007
    Research Tri-path chip amps, that's the main design of this Audio Source. Beware you'll find people who think T amps are the 2nd coming and others who think they are horrid. I fall somewhere in between towards the latter, but I've never heard this particular amp.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited April 2007
    I have an older Audiosource Amp/One that looks exactly like this amp. It's 2/80 @ 8ohms and 2/125 @ 4ohms. It plays extremely flat, good detail, average punch. Then it doesn't have as much power as the one you linked. For the price it's tempting. Mine never got hot and always did the job. I'm sure it would be an improvement over an AVR's power section, mine was...

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • chadjessie@hotm
    chadjessie@hotm Posts: 101
    edited April 2007
    I've been searching a little more on these amps and I can't really find much negative. It seems like they are a solid performer and lots of people like them. Also found that audiosource are supposed to be pretty accurate with there power ratings as well. Interesting. It's almost worth just trying it out for the price.
    Silversmoky
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited April 2007
    chadjessie@hotm wrote: »
    It's almost worth just trying it out for the price.

    In this hobby there is no better way to get an idea if you will like it and if it has good synergy with the rest of your system. Try it, if you don't like it, flip it.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited April 2007
    Digital power=crap. Large toroidal power, and caps=smooth and powerful. IMHO
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited April 2007
    That isnt a tripath or any other chip amp. It's good old push-pull solid state.

    Audiosource is an incredible value for the dollars. Very neutral, and 'real' power.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited April 2007
    I've owned a few Audiosource products over the years and they all performed better than what I expected from the price paid. They seem to last, too.
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
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  • chadjessie@hotm
    chadjessie@hotm Posts: 101
    edited April 2007
    I ordered it.:D Got it for even less than listed. Looking forward to trying it out. I will have to let you know how it works out. Thanks for the input!
    Silversmoky
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited April 2007
    RuSsMaN wrote: »
    That isnt a tripath or any other chip amp. It's good old push-pull solid state.

    Audiosource is an incredible value for the dollars. Very neutral, and 'real' power.

    Cheers,
    Russ

    I thought since the specs stated Tripath and T amp that it was Tripath type amp. Maybe not a chip amp, but Tripath nonetheless. It slao states that it's different than AB type amps. The effeciency numbers are right there with the typical Tripath amplification.

    - Power amplification stage utilizes Tripath(R) Digital Power
    Processor technology, yielding excellent audio fidelity
    with high power conversion efficiency. This amplifier
    technology is highly regarded and enjoyed by many critical
    listeners and audio enthusiasts.
    - Typical amplifier efficiency ranges from 67% at 33% rated power
    78% at full rated power, significantly higher than traditional
    class AB amplifiers. Benefits are cooler operation and
    enhanced amplifier reliability.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited April 2007
    I didn't even read that, I saw the picture and thought it was an amp100 or 200. Completely my bad on this one, apologies around. I had no idea they made a Tripath amp.

    Cheers,
    Russ
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,093
    edited April 2007
    Man, put down the playdough and put your glasses on, will ya?

    BDT
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited April 2007
    That's what you get for posting with a litre of Beam in your belly.

    My audio hitpoints just dropped by 62.
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • adam2434
    adam2434 Posts: 995
    edited April 2007
    I'm not familiar with their digital amps, but can attest to the bang-for-the-buck of their standard amps.

    I've been using two Amp Threes mono-bridged (400 watts bridged per the specs) to power my LS90s for a few years now. Major improvement over my Pioneer Elite AVR for driving them full range for 2 ch - vastly improved bass slam/control, dynamics, transients, rhythm and pace. The AVR sounded lifeless and constricted by comparison.

    Got them as refurbs for $160 each as a cheap experiment into the world of separate amps. Been in my rig a few years now cause I do believe that I would have to spend considerably more money to get a significant improvement - probably stepping into the world of $1K+ amps (new) from the likes of Adcom, Parasound, etc.

    The downside/risk with Audiosource appears to be their quality control. You do see a lot of refurbs on the market. However, the plus side of that is that you can get the refurbs for about 40% of normal street price if you're willing to take the chance. It's worked out well for me personally and I feel like it's kind of like buying used, but with a warranty.
    5.1 and 2.0 ch Basement Media Room: Outlaw 975/Emotiva DC-1/Rotel RB-1582 MKII/Rotel RB-1552/Audiosource Amp 3/Polk LS90, CS400i, FX500i/Outlaw X-12, LFM-1/JVD DLA-HD250/Da-Lite 100" HCCV/Sony ES BDP/Sonos Connect. DC-1/RB-1582 MKII/Sonos Connect also feed Polk 7C in garage or Dayton IO655 on patio.
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited April 2007
    I've got an AudioSource Amp Two that I've been running with no problems, I like the signal detection auto on feature. However, it does not see a lot of use, giving power to the 6/7 channels. It took a lot of strain off of my Onkyo AVR for the EX/ES and discrete 6.1 movies.
    Never Forget
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  • DollarDave
    DollarDave Posts: 2,575
    edited April 2007
    I was intrigued by this amp, so I did some research into it and the ONLY dealer I could find was that outfit on e-bay. In his pictures was an 800 number (800-help-115), so I called it. It was AudioSource and the tech told me that they had LOTS of problems with the Tripath-based amps and had discontinued them several years ago.

    [edit] And, contrary to the listing, AudioSource does not honor the 2 year warranty on them. They will fix them for a "small fee".
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  • strider
    strider Posts: 2,568
    edited April 2007
    I bought my Audiosource AMP Three from JR.com years ago, still working fine. Good bang for the buck, nothing too crazy or esoteric. Looks like they still have refurbs and new models.

    http://www.jr.com/JRSectionView.process?displayAll=1&BrandStore=t&N=400200+10937&Ne=10000
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  • chadjessie@hotm
    chadjessie@hotm Posts: 101
    edited April 2007
    Thanks Dave. Good to know about the warranty issues. Soooo, I guess I hope everything goes well with the amp with no problems. But I think it might be worth taking a shot on considering the price and maybe I will get a good one.
    Silversmoky
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited April 2007
    I am currently using an Amp/One in bridged mode (200w) to power my CS350. Sounds great and has a sleek profile as well. The price to product ratio is also very good.
    Jake
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  • greyranch
    greyranch Posts: 14
    edited April 2007
    Hi,I bought an Amp 2 used off of ebay.I always felt my Yamaha rxv-1200 receiver did a good job but somehow lacked high end detail.Thought maybe my hearing was getting worse or my Polk Monitor 10's were not up to the task.Anyways,received the Amp 2,hooked it up to the pre-outs on the receiver and--Beautiful music again!Very detailed and punchy and sounds more than the 80 wpc that it is specked at.You wont be disappointed. Glad to see there are some budget oriented audio nuts out there! Good luck! Brad:)
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  • BrettT1
    BrettT1 Posts: 560
    edited April 2007
    Hi. I bought two of 'em for 225 each from the same guy. Got them bridged to mono. Had them about a week and haven't noticed any problems. They run cool and I like the meters.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,782
    edited April 2007
    BrettT1,
    Any chance you could post some pics? The ones on the auction are a little small.

    How is the sound?
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  • shawn474
    shawn474 Posts: 3,052
    edited April 2007
    I just bought this audiosource amp to power a pair of patio speakers.

    http://www.amazon.com/AudioSource-Amp-100-2-Channel-Amplifier/dp/B00026BQJ6/ref=sr_1_1/103-1097785-6367002?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1176475832&sr=8-1

    My wife and I are installing a flagstone patio with a fire pit off of our deck and wanted to have sound out there. For the price, it was good enough for us and it got great reviews.

    Shawn
    Shawn
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    Center Channel: Polk LsiM706c
    Front: Polk LsiM703
    Rear: LSI fx
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  • BrettT1
    BrettT1 Posts: 560
    edited April 2007
    Here's a few pics. Sorry, not smart enough to post directly on board.

    http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/5787/picture096pu3.jpg

    http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/440/picture097cr1.jpg


    Of course if you want to bridge to mono, with SDAs, you'll need one of these AI-1 interconnects.

    http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/8682/picturepa5.jpg


    As far as the sound goes, I would say you definitely get the full SDA "effect"
    Plenty of power and clear as a bell.:D
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,782
    edited April 2007
    Thanks Brett, they look good. What color is the lighting on the guages?
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  • BrettT1
    BrettT1 Posts: 560
    edited April 2007
    I would say an amber color...:)
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited April 2007
    This talk about Audiosource motivated me to put it back in the mix. My sig said I was bridging it on my center and I had planned to but never got around to it. Hooked it up today, bridged it's 200w @ 8ohms, which really brings the CSi3 to life. The speaker sounds very nice, but of course it highlights that it's not voiced to match the SDAs...maybe an LSiC is in my future :) . Nice little amp, very clean, much punchier bridged than in stereo

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • shawn474
    shawn474 Posts: 3,052
    edited April 2007
    I just got finished hooking up the Audiosource Amp 100 that I received today (on sale at Amazon for 95.00 with free shipping). For anyone looking for a budget friendly zone 2 amp, this fits the bill. I have a pair of speakers on my patio and a pair of in-walls in the kitchen that I hooked up to the A and B outputs. It is perfect for this application if you're not looking something to blows the windows out. I was surprised by how heavy it was for being so compact.

    Shawn
    Shawn
    AVR: Marantz SR-5011
    Center Channel: Polk LsiM706c
    Front: Polk LsiM703
    Rear: LSI fx
    Subwoofer: SVS 20-39pci
    Television: Samsung UN58NU7100FXZA
    DVD Player: Sony PS4
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