So Im sitting here listening to the Grande Utopia...

VR3
VR3 Posts: 28,793
edited March 2007 in Speakers
And...

I miss my Taylos.

Just isn't doing it for me... I think its because my system is setup better.

I just wanted to let you guys know that ;)
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited March 2007
    All joking aside...

    My Dad's system is a joke.

    Nice amps, speakers - poor source and preamp.

    His main source is digital cable.

    The SVS is a massive bass piston - I think I've heard 2 notes the entire time from that thing. Im not dissing SVS - its just very* outclassed by the mains of this system.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • dane_peterson
    dane_peterson Posts: 1,903
    edited March 2007
    Have you told him he needs to upgrade his shiat?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited March 2007
    He dosnt believe me... lol

    Ah well - does not matter me.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,092
    edited March 2007
    Trey,

    What's he got for associated gear?

    A sub? with the Grande Utopias? Tell me you are joking.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited March 2007
    Haha, I am not joking.

    He runs the big Outlaw Preamp (ht)
    big ol pass lab mono blocks (120ish pounds a piece)..
    Digital Cable for his main source and a Philips DVDP in the 800 range for the other source...
    and a SVS ultra
    Monster and entry signal cable for his wiring...

    Utopias hug the wall, speaker behind the EC towers...

    Its a joke for such fine gear.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited March 2007
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote:
    Haha, I am not joking.

    He runs the big Outlaw Preamp (ht)
    big ol pass lab mono blocks (120ish pounds a piece)..
    Digital Cable for his main source and a Philips DVDP in the 800 range for the other source...
    and a SVS ultra
    Monster and entry signal cable for his wiring...

    Utopias hug the wall, speaker behind the EC towers...

    Its a joke for such fine gear.

    :eek: :eek: :eek: Outlaw pre and Pass Lab's mono blocks :eek: :eek: :eek: .He deserves to put in front of a firing squad. <JK>, but talk about a mismatch of components. Boggles the mind. I'll take those Pass mono's off his hands for the price of a couple of Outlaw M200 mono's. :D
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited March 2007
    Hes a firm believer that the amps do everything ;)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • mulveling
    mulveling Posts: 505
    edited March 2007
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote:
    Hes a firm believer that the amps do everything ;)
    Well to be honest I believe the amp is much more important than the pre as they have a more difficult job....but if I had the scratch for Pass monos you can bet I'd get a pre that wouldn't look totally embarrasing next to them :D

    Geez, he could at least pick up a nice Cary or BAT in the $1K-$2K range from audiogon!

    Sadly the poor speaker placement isn't too uncommon with grandiose speakers like that (just browse some pics on audiogon). I feel sad that such wonderful speakers are being utilized far below their potential. Of course, you should definitely be proud of your Tylers and the solid efforts you've invested in your system!
    Tannoy Dimension TD10, SOTA Star Sapphire, Heathkit W4A's, McIntosh MC2100, Eddie-Current Zana Deux, Singlepower SDS, Sennheiser HD650, Audio-Technica L3000, Sony Qualia 010
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited March 2007
    Thanks Mulveling....

    Well Jesse words it best - crap in, crap out.

    The preamp has to send a good signals for the amps to reproduce with force...

    The Outlaw is a great unit, but when you are running 30,000 dollar monos and 90,000 dollar speakers you shouldnt skimp.

    My Dad is a status man though, not much about audio enthusiasm found in this setup..

    My setup is going to be all about Audio Enthusiasm! Im just NUTS!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited March 2007
    Never, ever, under estimate the importance of a great pre-amp. Especially at the level of equipment like the Pass amps and the Grand Utopia's. Of course it's all ruined with a less than stellar source. All components are equally important to get the best from the system as a whole.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • TennesseeOutlaw
    TennesseeOutlaw Posts: 414
    edited March 2007
    90,000 dollar speakers and 30,000 dollar mono block amps!! I would love to take a gander at those babies!
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited March 2007
    Lets see if my Dad has pics on his computer..
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited March 2007
    Wowee!!!!Your Dad has some nice stuff. Is he single.??:D
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • Gaara
    Gaara Posts: 2,415
    edited March 2007
    nice amp stands
    The Basement HT
    PC Rig
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  • TN_Polk_Lover
    TN_Polk_Lover Posts: 243
    edited March 2007
    Now, wingnut, you know he has the wrong "plumbing" for you. ;)

    Robert
    Robert
    zombie boy 2000 wrote:
    You are officially in the high-end of the deep-end of the top-end.

    Bonus Room Over Garage:
    Toshiba 27" CRT TV
    Digital Source: Sony DVP-NS3100ES
    DVR: Panasonic DMR-ES15
    Denon 3806 AV Receiver
    - L/R Preamp out to Parasound HCA-1200 Amp
    Polk RTi70's, CSi40 Center, RTi38 Side Surrounds, RTi38 Back Surrounds

    Living Room: (2ch only)
    TV: Sony KV20-FV12
    DVD Player: Sony DVP-NS715P
    Yamaha R9 Receiver Polk RTi38's
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited March 2007
    Damn!
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited March 2007
    That's uber high end man, pops hit the lotto?
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited March 2007
    $2 speaker cables to boot............
    HT Optoma HD25 LV on 80" DIY Screen, Anthem MRX 300 Receiver, Pioneer Elite BDP 51FD Polk CS350LS, Polk SDA1C, Polk FX300, Polk RT55, Dual EBS Adire Shiva 320watt tuned to 17hz, ICs-DIY Twisted Prs, Speaker-Raymond Cable

    2 Channel Thorens TD 318 Grado ZF1, SACD/CD Marantz 8260, Soundstream/Krell DAC1, Audio Mirror PP1, Odyssey Stratos, ADS L-1290, ICs-DIY Twisted , Speaker-Raymond Cable
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited March 2007
    TN_Polk_Lover wrote:
    Now, wingnut, you know he has the wrong "plumbing" for you. ;)

    Robert
    Things aren't always black and white, TN ;)
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited March 2007
    Nah, he is running Bi-Wire Signal Cables, either the Ultra or classic...

    If it werent for me talking him into that, hed be running HD wire right now though most likely...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited March 2007
    So, did he have a heart attack the first time you pulled all the drivers out of one of his speakers just to see how well the cabinet was made???
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited March 2007
    Haha, that is one speaker - unless I personally owned it - I would not remove the speakers...

    I will say that the cabinet is around 2" or so thick, all seperate encosures and weighs around 4-500 pounds.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,092
    edited March 2007
    Trey,

    What's your dad's street address?

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,664
    edited March 2007
    Holy smokes. Are you guy competing as to who has the nicest audio.

    Dang sweet,
    engtaz
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2007
    I thought you were going to say your Dad blew out all the woofers, playing some horrid country music....kinda like the 1.2TL incident.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited March 2007
    wingnut4772 wrote:
    Things aren't always black and white, TN ;)

    good to have more than one option ;)
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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  • powerlord
    powerlord Posts: 310
    edited March 2007
    OH my GOD! Is that a power amp? I know this is a newb question but just how much moolah goes into buying one of those?
    LG 50 in. Plasma
    Eosone setup
    Marantz SR-18U
    HK AVR-7200


    My Music
    http://members.soundclick.com/powerlord66
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  • powerlord
    powerlord Posts: 310
    edited March 2007
    Never mind,I just went to their site.Way way way to much for my blood.
    LG 50 in. Plasma
    Eosone setup
    Marantz SR-18U
    HK AVR-7200


    My Music
    http://members.soundclick.com/powerlord66
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited March 2007
    Why don't you just bring over your Shanling and have him compare his digital cable (gasp) to your CDP.

    Its insulting he uses digital cable as his source.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2007
    where are your Taylos? i thought you were getting em in March?
    PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
    Vancouver, Canada Sept 30th, 2012 - Madonna concert :cheesygrin:
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