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blacklab
blacklab Posts: 37
I'm new to this site. Looking at pre-wiring my home for a 7.1 ht and wonder if the CL3 4 conductor wire is only for biwiring, or if it has another advantage over the 2 conductor wire (is it worth the extra $$?). Thanks.
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited March 2007
    Welcome first.


    Monster cable you could do a lot better. Check out www.bluejeancables.com they sell both 2 wire or 4 wire speaker wire. The advantage of 4 wire is that you run less wire the flip side you have different length of wire to each speaker. Something I don't wish to do so I use 2 wire, coiling the extra for one speaker so they both have the same length.

    BTW there 12 gauge 2 conductor speaker wire the Belden sounds fantastic and just about night and day over Monster 2 wire in-wall I have temporary ran along the floor. This change is so great I need to recalibrate my rear surround speakers because of the difference in volume and highs tweets.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • blacklab
    blacklab Posts: 37
    edited March 2007
    Thanks for the link. Would you recommend setting up a speaker plate with individual speaker connections, or use a gang style plate to run the wires directly to my amp? Also, what advantage does the 12 awg have over the 14 awg for my surrounds (FXi3's)? I'm not sure the extra guage is needed here. My rears will be in ceiling - any suggestions that won't break the bank?
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited March 2007
    Will not sure what you're paying for 14 awg but the 12 awg Belden is $.38 a foot not bad IMO. I was in HD and they what'd $.33 for 22 awg solid quad, old phone wire if you will. I needed some for some security wiring I'm adding to house. I had trouble paying $.33 when I got 12 awg speaker wire for $.38 a foot. End up buying the whole roll for $45 for 500' but the by the ft price OMG.

    The end of it is your choice how ever you wish it to look in the end? Plate or free?

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited March 2007
    BTW I know you're new....

    But a wire can have a different sound to it. OK? The 14 and the 12 won't make a big difference, but the maker of the wire will.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • blacklab
    blacklab Posts: 37
    edited March 2007
    $.38 is very good. I'll check out the shipping rates. Maybe I'll mention your name so you can get the commission. ha ha
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited March 2007
    In-wall just wire but yes a cool price for nice sounding wire. Belden makes nice wire almost too nice to burying in wall but nice.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,665
    edited March 2007
    monoprice.com

    engtaz
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited March 2007
    engtaz wrote:
    monoprice.com

    engtaz
    It's been out of stock for a while.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,665
    edited March 2007
    Thanks for the info Face

    engtaz
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
  • Rivrrat
    Rivrrat Posts: 2,101
    edited March 2007
    I put some Monoprice 12g in my walls, it seems to be working ok. The 100'and 300' rolls is are stock, and if you're running in walls and ceilings, you'd be surprised at how fast you'll use it up.
    My equipment sig felt inadequate and deleted itself.
  • miner
    miner Posts: 1,305
    edited March 2007
    I used wire from www.impactacoustics.com

    14ga/4 conductor. A 250' bulk roll was $99.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,798
    edited March 2007
    For in-wall use I have been using this:

    http://www.accessories4less.com/cgi-bin/item/SQSCL1425WH

    This wire is easier to pull through walls than any other I have tried. Very flexible due to the 105 strand build. They also have it in 4 conductor:

    http://www.accessories4less.com/cgi-bin/item/SQSCL1425WH
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited March 2007
    Guys, Wire is not wire, copper is not copper. There's a difference on how these speaker wire sound. So my word buyer beware. ;) Just because it's cheap and wire doesn't make it the best, unless cheap is what you want.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,798
    edited March 2007
    Guys, Wire is not wire, copper is not copper. There's a difference on how these speaker wire sound.

    Really? What is it about your speaker wire that changes the laws of physics?

    The wires I posted a link to are made just as well, as Belden. Actually, they have a higher strand count, and a better jacket for pulling through walls, so I dare say they are BETTER. And yes, I have used Belden, the sound is the same.