Quiet Interconnects?

Ricardo

Not trying to start a cables pissing contest.....

One difference that I've proven interconnects can bring is more/less hum. I hooked up the TAD-60 today using Signal analog 2, and there was a hum coming out of the speakers. Loud enough to be annoying.
I removed the Signals and used my Outlawaudio IC's and the hum decreased to a level that I can only hear it if I am a couple of feet away from the speakers. The outlaws have the arrows that as I understand have something to do with the way ground is connected differently in each of the sides (excuse my ignorance).

Has anyone had a similar hum problem that could be fixed by swapping interconnects? Any known "really quiet" interconnects out there????

disneyjoe7

I take it that you have both ends hooked up? If so then I say it's has to be in the shielding of the cables in question. Surprised you stated Outlaw Cable over Signals, I would have thought the other way around. Just a name thing nothing else.

ben62670

Usually cable that are "directional" have a shield that is attached at one end only. Some manufactures say that is the direction that the wire was drawn in.

Ricardo

disneyjoe7 wrote:

I take it that you have both ends hooked up? If so then I say it's has to be in the shielding of the cables in question. Surprised you stated Outlaw Cable over Signals, I would have thought the other way around. Just a name thing nothing else.

No, I have only one end hooked up; maybe that's why I don't hear the hum?

Outlawaudio makes good interconnects; I've always have a pair handy.

disneyjoe7

With one end hooked up the Outlawaudio being directional then the shielding is grounded to the source so this is not grounded and not an antenna to the receiver. At lease my thinking.

Not a fair test on your part IMHO, so what sounds better?

Ricardo

disneyjoe7 wrote:

With one end hooked up the Outlawaudio being directional then the shielding is grounded to the source so this is not grounded and not an antenna to the receiver. At lease my thinking.

Not a fair test on your part IMHO, so what sounds better?

I must say that I have no idea what you are trying to say

From Outlawaudio web page:

"We are firm believers in the use of twisted, twin conductor construction for analog audio interconnects. This type of construction is superior due to the natural hum and noise reduction when twisted pairs are used, something not possible when coax type construction is used for audio applications. In addition, the use of twisted pair construction allows us to build semi-balanced style cables, where the ground is lifted at one end. This allows for a further degree of noise immunity not possible when coax style cables are used for audio applications."

I can say that the lower noise level is true. Soundwise, I've yet to find a difference.

Bill Ayotte

I just made these, and they are dead silent. They were wade with Cardas Crosslink II cable

read-alot

Not surprised about the Outlaws.

I left them in my rig.

disneyjoe7

HTrookie wrote:

I must say that I have no idea what you are trying to say

From Outlawaudio web page:

"We are firm believers in the use of twisted, twin conductor construction for analog audio interconnects. This type of construction is superior due to the natural hum and noise reduction when twisted pairs are used, something not possible when coax type construction is used for audio applications. In addition, the use of twisted pair construction allows us to build semi-balanced style cables, where the ground is lifted at one end. This allows for a further degree of noise immunity not possible when coax style cables are used for audio applications."

I can say that the lower noise level is true. Soundwise, I've yet to find a difference.

Ok, I going to try to explain this but this would be better if I could see you eyes and I had a blackboard. Taking the fact you have the interconnects hooked up to a pre-amp input and the other end free. One cable has direction the other is not directional. So the directional cable is not grounded on one end and let's assume for now that is end is the source end, not the input side or the pre-amp end. So this shield not being ground is still picking up outside signals that is all around but in this case it's not being transmitted too pre-amp. The non directional cable receives these outside signals but being grounded to pre-amp transmits this too pre-amp. So I felt a cable test like this is not fear IMHO.

Ricardo

Ok; I do not have one free end on the IC's; When I said that I was being sarcastic; how can I have the IC's connected to the preamp, but not connected to anything in the other end?

Anyway, let's just say that the hum dissapeared and I'm happy with it; not to say the Signal cables are not good; they are great, just don't work as good on this specific setup.

Deadof_knight

Im thinking since Ht just came back from what was it tokyo that he is hearing things ( aka upgradatis bug talking ) hisssss hissss ! hehehe stumbling on to that place had to be awesome!

disneyjoe7

HTrookie wrote:

Ok; I do not have one free end on the IC's; When I said that I was being sarcastic; how can I have the IC's connected to the preamp, but not connected to anything in the other end?

Sitting on floor? Joke man

Anyway, let's just say that the hum dissapeared and I'm happy with it; not to say the Signal cables are not good; they are great, just don't work as good on this specific setup.

Interesting I think you should compare AudioQuest DiamondBack's to those Outlaws.

Timsatx

We use, from time-to-time, cables at work that have similar setups. On one end the shield/drain wire is not connected to the connector, on the other end it is. The end that has the shield/drain wire connected is connected to the source (i.e. receiver), the other end would be connected to the speaker. This provides noise shielding all the way out to the speaker, but because the shield/drain wire is not connected on the speaker end, you reduce/eliminate ground loop noise or noise introduced to the shield/drain wire by the environment.

read-alot

Interesting I think you should compare AudioQuest DiamondBack's to those Outlaws.[/QUOTE]

Should we consider the cost difference?

disneyjoe7

read-alot wrote:

Interesting I think you should compare AudioQuest DiamondBack's to those Outlaws.

Should we consider the cost difference?

Why not? I know the AudioQuest DiamondBack's run about $150 for a meter pair. The Outlaw's?

Ricardo

Outlaws are $49.95 for a 1.2 m pair.

disneyjoe7

So can we say the DiamondBack's sound 3 times better?

Ricardo

Or that Audioquest owners are three times richer?

disneyjoe7

LOL I doubt it.

venomclan

In my HT, the Straightwires are a lot louder than the Kimber Hero's. The Straightwires keep picking on the Hero's. I had to seperate them, each back to their own amp. I threatened to go with anti-cables and now they shut up.
Venom