sony dropping bluray player to $299.99

PoLk FaN
PoLk FaN Posts: 81
edited March 2007 in Electronics
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/sony-dropping-bluray-to-300-241349.php the war is over
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited March 2007
    Yeah, but what's to say there won't be a $199 HD-DVD player out by that time as well? They are talking about this for Black Friday, which is only about 9 months away, right?
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  • m00npie
    m00npie Posts: 697
    edited March 2007
    yawn
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  • PoLk FaN
    PoLk FaN Posts: 81
    edited March 2007
    I put it up for you guys to read, I could care less if HD-DVD puts theres for $199. our if sony is $299
    I put it up if anyone was thinking of buying it they could wait a few more months and save $600.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2007
    i'm waiting till they reach the $99 mark.. which will prob be in about 12 - 24 months or so. Woo Hoo!
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited March 2007
    Cool, competitive price pressure is always good!
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,887
    edited March 2007
    danger boy wrote:
    i'm waiting till they reach the $99 mark.. which will prob be in about 12 - 24 months or so. Woo Hoo!

    The really good players will never be that cheap. Heck, the minimum DVD player I would use still starts around $200.
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  • PoLk FaN
    PoLk FaN Posts: 81
    edited March 2007
    jdhdiggs wrote:
    Cool, competitive price pressure is always good!
    helps us save money, and thats a good thing
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  • Gaara
    Gaara Posts: 2,415
    edited March 2007
    I completly agree with billbillw. Even though the prices are going down there comes a point where drastic decreases in price causes drastic decreases in quality. They have to cut costs somewhere, they are not going to start selling players at huge losses just to get the prices down (ignoring consoles).

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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2007
    Gaara wrote:
    I completly agree with billbillw. Even though the prices are going down there comes a point where drastic decreases in price causes drastic decreases in quality. They have to cut costs somewhere, they are not going to start selling players at huge losses just to get the prices down (ignoring consoles).

    Jared


    How do you esplain that Oppo player everyone is ga ga over then? it's considered a budget player.. and it has a pretty big following. Seriously.. the cost innards of these players, is prob what.. maybe worth $30 - $40 most times.
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited March 2007
    Nah, a good video or audio DAC will cost $30-$40 @ minimum alone (HD capable). I'd put the total cost close to $200-$300 for current gen. It will probably get to the $40 dollar range in 18 months or so.

    Guessing...
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,887
    edited March 2007
    danger boy wrote:
    How do you esplain that Oppo player everyone is ga ga over then? it's considered a budget player.. and it has a pretty big following. Seriously.. the cost innards of these players, is prob what.. maybe worth $30 - $40 most times.

    That Oppo was still a $299 player (now reduced to $199). I think the innards would add up to a little more than you think, especially on the HD-DVD and BluRay. Early generations of components like this usually require multiple chips on multiple boards. Later generations usually reduce the chip count and end up with single board solutions, like the cheap DVD players out today. Still, the better solutions, like my Denon 2900, have multiple boards. An analog audio board, a SACD board, a DVD board, a power supply board...you get the idea.
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited March 2007
    I seriously doubt both formats will be @ $99 or $199 in a yr, unless youre on ebay buying a 1st gen player.
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited March 2007
    danger boy wrote:
    i'm waiting till they reach the $99 mark.. which will prob be in about 12 - 24 months or so. Woo Hoo!

    You'll be in line for a long time buddy.
    Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!

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  • jmwest1970
    jmwest1970 Posts: 846
    edited March 2007
    danger boy wrote:
    i'm waiting till they reach the $99 mark.. which will prob be in about 12 - 24 months or so. Woo Hoo!

    I'm there, but I'll take one at $199. Also, the media has to drop. If I'm paying $7-$10 for DVDs I'm only going to pay $12-$15 for Blue Ray.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2007
    I'd love to see how this plays out in regards to the two formats.
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,606
    edited March 2007
    It's not that we might buy the cheap player. But if it's cheap enough a lot of
    others jump on a format, then that format could go on to be the winner.
    Let's face it, no one wants a tie. A clear cut format for the future
    would mean much to everyone involved. Let the games begin!
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,887
    edited March 2007
    I disagree. We just need a good universal player. Nobody really won the whole SACD vs DVD-A war. They are both still out there (for now at least) and there are many fine players that are capable of playing both very well. It may take a few years, but there will be a solid universal player at some point. With both formats still alive, it will keep things competetive and maybe bring down the media prices.

    sucks2beme wrote:
    It's not that we might buy the cheap player. But if it's cheap enough a lot of
    others jump on a format, then that format could go on to be the winner.
    Let's face it, no one wants a tie. A clear cut format for the future
    would mean much to everyone involved. Let the games begin!
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  • Deadof_knight
    Deadof_knight Posts: 980
    edited March 2007
    They dont make tons of money off of people like us , we are typically not the mainstream buyer here, unlike say my parents my brother and such that want it to play and it looks good, and arent into the superb detail and audio smoothness like some of us here........The big companies are selling to the mainstream buyer BULK sales to walmart and such.......
    :cool: " He who dies with the most equipment wins Right ? "

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  • Deadof_knight
    Deadof_knight Posts: 980
    edited March 2007
    I dont know anyone personally that has another set of 1.2s , (ok the hifi shop owner has a pair of 10 k $ green mountains) him excluded. close to me everyone I show them too are LIKE DAMN those big, we arent the typical market purchasers
    :cool: " He who dies with the most equipment wins Right ? "

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  • cheddar
    cheddar Posts: 2,390
    edited March 2007
    billbillw wrote:
    I disagree. We just need a good universal player. Nobody really won the whole SACD vs DVD-A war. They are both still out there (for now at least) and there are many fine players that are capable of playing both very well. It may take a few years, but there will be a solid universal player at some point. With both formats still alive, it will keep things competetive and maybe bring down the media prices.

    Actually, the only way for the war to last that long will be if the HD formats are never adopted by the masses as is the case for SACD and DVD-A. There is still a lot of hype put out by both sides to confuse the issue. But some things are pretty clear.

    Blu-ray is now the since inception leader in software sales:

    http://www.homemediamagazine.com/news/html/breaking_article.cfm?article_id=10323

    Blu-ray is now outselling HD-DVD in software sales by a 2 to 1 margin, and this has been a very steady upward trend since last Christmas:

    http://news.digitaltrends.com/article12412.html

    The price differential between quality hardware should be less than $100 by next Christmas as noted above.

    And prices for blu-ray software may retail higher, but they have been heavily promoting the format with several high profile discount campaigns that have brought the internet price of the disks pretty much down to dvd prices for internet savvy buyers. The latest 50% off amazon deal has blu-rays flying off the shelves:

    http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd/

    And finally, its up to just one major studio, Universal to hold the line on this format war. All other major studios either produce exclusively for blu-ray or offer on both formats. So except for Universal's offerings, blu-ray is already a universal player.

    I don't mention these things to start a flamewar or make people feel bad for owning HD-DVD. I have no doubt that HD-DVD PQ is stellar and that the cheap toshiba players have been very good deals for many polkies.

    But the conversation here has turned to speculation on the format war, and I thought I'd just throw in some facts about what is currently going on in the industry. If Universal goes format neutral, the war for all practical reasons would be over in favor of blu-ray. There just is no equivalent scenario for HD-DVD to pull out the same kind of victory with all the momentum against them at the current time. Again, no insults intended. Just presenting what's currently happening in the industry for those that may be curious and/or making purchasing decisions.
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