Firing LSi 15 woofers IN?

jderdock · February 2007

My right channels' woofer fires into a wall and the side of my couch. There is far too much bass coming from this channel because of it. Does anyone run their LSi's with the woofers facing in? Any reason why that should be avoided in this situation (besides firing a woofer into a turntable... the turntable is not going to be where it is in the photo)?

heiney9 · February 2007

jderdock wrote:

My right channels' woofer fires into a wall and the side of my couch. There is far too much bass coming from this channel because of it. Does anyone run their LSi's with the woofers facing in? Any reason why that should be avoided in this situation (besides firing a woofer into a turntable... the turntable is not going to be where it is in the photo)?

Your right speaker is in the worst possible position. Even if it didn't have a side firing woofer it would be less than ideal. You have to put your thinking cap on and get that right speaker away from the wall, or it's never going to sound like it should.

The Lsi's are mirror imaged and they recommend the tweets on the inside, but in your case you could try swapping L/R speakers. It will make a slight difference but the front stage of your listening area is was too small/congested to set up the 15's properly. Did you think about this before you spent your $$$? LSi 9's on stands would have been a much better choice, IMO for your current listening area. You'd still have bass loading up in the corner but better than the current situation.

McLoki · February 2007

It may mess with the imaging (since the tweeters are supposed to be on the inside) but it should be easy enough to test with no real risks. (provided you dont pitch one over the railing while moving it)

Let us know how it work out for you,

Michael

McLoki · February 2007

Could you move your equipment to a taller (more slender) rack and move the LSi's closer together? Then you could move the right LSi about 2-3' in from the wall. Might be worth testing at least as long as you are moving them around.

jderdock · February 2007

heiney9 wrote:

Your right speaker is in the worst possible position. Even if it didn't have a side firing woofer it would be less than ideal. You have to put your thinking cap on and get that right speaker away from the wall, or it's never going to sound like it should.

Unforunately, even a magic thinking cap can't help my room. I'm stuck with this configuration.

heiney9 wrote:

Did you think about this before you spent your $$$?

No. When I bought this house, I didn't think "man, my LSi's are not going to work in this place".

I had the Polk's before I moved in to this space.

jderdock · February 2007

McLoki wrote:

Could you move your equipment to a taller (more slender) rack and move the LSi's closer together? Then you could move the right LSi about 2-3' in from the wall. Might be worth testing at least as long as you are moving them around.

I actually have a rack in transit and the gear will be going to the left of the couch (out of picture). There will be nothing in between the Polks. However, I used to have them a few feet closer together and it never sounded right. The soundstage felt congested and unnatural. This sounds better, but the boomy bass in the right channel is not desirable.

heiney9 · February 2007

jderdock wrote:

Unforunately, even a magic thinking cap can't help my room. I'm stuck with this configuration.

No. When I bought this house, I didn't think "man, my LSi's are not going to work in this place". I had the Polk's before I moved in to this space.

I see

. I'll swap my Cherry 9's and stands for your 15's. My room would be perfect for them

. Seriously!!!!!!!

Looks like the only thing left is to swap L/R speakers and have the woof's firing to the inside. 15's can be difficult to set-up in a normal space let alone where you have them. I'm dead serious, you may find it's just too much speaker for the listening area.

Good luck, if I think of anything else I'll be sure to post it.

H9

jderdock · February 2007

heiney9 wrote:

I see . I'll swap my Cherry 9's and stands for your 15's. My room would be perfect for them . Seriously!!!!!!!

If you lived closer, I'd probably take you up on that.

heiney9 wrote:

Looks like the only thing left is to swap L/R speakers and have the woof's firing to the inside. 15's can be difficult to set-up in a normal space let alone where you have them. I'm dead serious, you may find it's just too much speaker for the listening area.

I guess it doesn't hurt to try. I'm planning on purchasing a new place next summer, so I may just hang onto these and hope for a better room in the next abode.

heiney9 wrote:

Good luck, if I think of anything else I'll be sure to post it.

H9

thanks

Early B. · February 2007

heiney9 wrote:

I see . I'll swap my Cherry 9's and stands for your 15's.

Actually, your setup would be better off with bookshelf speakers. You're wasting those 15's because the sound is tremendously compromised. In fact, most any floorstander would sound boomy as hell in that right corner.

Try a pair front ported bookshelf speakers and a small sub.

audioblonde · February 2007

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cheddar · February 2007

May not work, but...

How about flipping the couch around and putting it against the rail. It would frame a larger area for the 15s where the couch is now and you could move them out from the wall yet still have some separation. Seems like a good solution if the couch is on a long wall...

jderdock · March 2007

i'll be damned...firing the woofers in made a huge difference in my particular room.

McLoki · March 2007

jderdock wrote:

i'll be damned...firing the woofers in made a huge difference in my particular room.

For the better? Imaging still ok?

scottnbnj · March 2007

it might take a few cd's until a couple go in that highlight the problems. it might be less noticable with that wall there too though. i gotta think it has a lot more than just the low frequencies mucked up even with l&r set up properly. so, there might not be much there to compare it to.

jderdock, if you haven't already, you might experiment with a bass trap against the wall just in front of the speaker and towards the window that is at least as high as the speaker so it also catches up through the mids and highs. try moving some seat cushions or something similar around in that area just to hear if it cleans things up. i bet it will if you stay with it.

if that works, then it's a matter of finding or making a trap that looks like it belongs there while covering frequencies as low as you need to treat.

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Firing LSi 15 woofers IN?

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