help me rescue my LSi7's

dvdchance
dvdchance Posts: 13
edited March 2007 in Troubleshooting
Over the summer I was playing my system a bit loud and basically burned the circuit boards on both speakers. Instead of just leaving them to look real nice collecting dust in my basement, how can I get these fixed?

Does Polk sell the circuit boards whole or can I just solder a replacement diode or whatever? I'm pretty sure the drivers themselves are good since the speakers sounded great till i shut it off. too bad that was when i smelled smoke.

Thanks,
David
HTS System

Denon 2805
Rotel RMB 1075
Denon DVD 2910
Polk LSi7 Front
Polk CSi40 Centre
Polk FXi3 Surround and Surround Back
Velodyne DLS 4000 Sub

Vintage System

Pioneer SX-890
Pioneer CT-F7272
Dual 1219
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  • pblanc
    pblanc Posts: 261
    edited February 2007
    Leave an email with customer service: polkcs@polkaudio.com. Make an inquiry as to what the cost of replacemant crossovers would be. If the speakers are under warrany explain the circustances under which the event occured and what equipment you were using to drive them. You may be eligible for replacement under warrany. If not, and you have to buy them, don't forget to tell the person you are ordering from that you are a mamber of Club Polk and ask for the 10% discount. They will get back to you promptly. If thats to much trouble, I'll take them off your hands for $50 for the pair. (Just kidding)
  • dvdchance
    dvdchance Posts: 13
    edited February 2007
    Thanks for the reply pblanc.

    So thats the crossover that I burned. Anything specific to ask them for?

    Whats an app for cost.
    HTS System

    Denon 2805
    Rotel RMB 1075
    Denon DVD 2910
    Polk LSi7 Front
    Polk CSi40 Centre
    Polk FXi3 Surround and Surround Back
    Velodyne DLS 4000 Sub

    Vintage System

    Pioneer SX-890
    Pioneer CT-F7272
    Dual 1219
  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited February 2007
    What were you driving them with? Maybe provide some more detail here and instead of just helping you fix your speakers, we can also keep you from blowing them up in the future :)

    Were you passing a 10hz Sine wave through them by any chance?!? Sorry, I just had to find a way to bring this old thread back to life :)

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47052&highlight=sine
    Stereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
    Bedroom: Samsung HPR-4252, Toshiba HD-A2, HK 3480, Signal Cable, AQ speaker cable, Totem Dreamcatchers, SVS PB10-NSD, URC MX-850
  • dvdchance
    dvdchance Posts: 13
    edited February 2007
    Thanks Andy,
    No sine wave listening I'm sad to say. Just some rap mp3's that did me in.

    I was way too heavy on the volume control of my denon 2805 as a pre pro to a Rotel RMB 1075 amp. i believe the most guilty song was 'Nuthin' But A 'G' Thang', so maybe dr dre will pay :)

    I have also quit drinking.
    HTS System

    Denon 2805
    Rotel RMB 1075
    Denon DVD 2910
    Polk LSi7 Front
    Polk CSi40 Centre
    Polk FXi3 Surround and Surround Back
    Velodyne DLS 4000 Sub

    Vintage System

    Pioneer SX-890
    Pioneer CT-F7272
    Dual 1219
  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited February 2007
    This is fantastic stuff, dvdchance. Your gear (200 wpc into 4ohms) should be able to drive the LSi7s to fairly excruciating levels, so I'm guessing you were banging that old Dre pretty hard.


    Are the Lsi7s your front speakers? Were you running them large in stereo, or small with a sub, or in a 5.1 setup at the time?
    Stereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
    Bedroom: Samsung HPR-4252, Toshiba HD-A2, HK 3480, Signal Cable, AQ speaker cable, Totem Dreamcatchers, SVS PB10-NSD, URC MX-850
  • dvdchance
    dvdchance Posts: 13
    edited February 2007
    Pretty hard times two Andy. Seems like with every beer I drank the volume just needed to be a little louder.

    I was running them setup as small with my velodyne DLS 4000 sub. It honestly sounded clean even while smoke was coming out of the back. And that was just a relatively low fidelity mp3.
    HTS System

    Denon 2805
    Rotel RMB 1075
    Denon DVD 2910
    Polk LSi7 Front
    Polk CSi40 Centre
    Polk FXi3 Surround and Surround Back
    Velodyne DLS 4000 Sub

    Vintage System

    Pioneer SX-890
    Pioneer CT-F7272
    Dual 1219
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2007
    You could replace the part with an aftermarket substitute, via the wiring schematic that's at the top of the troubleshooting section. I'm pretty sure that the LSi7 is in there. You may or may not have to change both speakers, depending on how hardcore your hearing is, or if you even care.

    The circuit board or components are not available individually from Polk, only as a complete assembly which includes the wires, binding posts, terminal cup, etc. I don't know how much it costs.

    Good luck.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited February 2007
    Yeah, I'm sure they can be fixed.....get in touch with Polk CS.

    Be more careful next time, eh? Those are nice speakers, it's a shame to see them abused.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited February 2007
    LSi7's will not go much above 102db unless it is pretty dynamic material. (i.e. the constant SPL is well below 100db and the peaks are over 103)

    I know that is about where mine started to give out. (soundstage started to collapse at about that level) I very rarely went that loud and now that I have the 15's - they reach higher levels that I ever try to exceed.

    Michael

    Edit - I was mistaken about the DB of the 7's not 105 - it was actually closer to 102-103db.
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
  • pblanc
    pblanc Posts: 261
    edited February 2007
    Quit drinking?!? My advice to you, sir, is to start drinking heavily. I think McLoki is right on. I used LSi9s as front speakers at one time and blew a woofer out rather unexpectedly. I really didn't hear anything harsh until it went. I switched to LSi15 mains and have never heard them strain, and have never had a problem (using the same amp) even at relatively loud listening levels.
  • dvdchance
    dvdchance Posts: 13
    edited February 2007
    dorokusai wrote:
    You could replace the part with an aftermarket substitute, via the wiring schematic that's at the top of the troubleshooting section. I'm pretty sure that the LSi7 is in there. You may or may not have to change both speakers, depending on how hardcore your hearing is, or if you even care.

    The circuit board or components are not available individually from Polk, only as a complete assembly which includes the wires, binding posts, terminal cup, etc. I don't know how much it costs.

    Good luck.

    Since what I would have to replace is only available as a complete assembly, I really don't have much to lose by trying a replacement part then right? Only the cost of the blown part itself, I can't break it any more.

    Where could I source the replacement part at? Radio Shack? Parts express?
    HTS System

    Denon 2805
    Rotel RMB 1075
    Denon DVD 2910
    Polk LSi7 Front
    Polk CSi40 Centre
    Polk FXi3 Surround and Surround Back
    Velodyne DLS 4000 Sub

    Vintage System

    Pioneer SX-890
    Pioneer CT-F7272
    Dual 1219
  • pblanc
    pblanc Posts: 261
    edited February 2007
    If you don't know the answer to that question, I'm not sure you should try. If you have a local electonics repair shop (check yellow pages) you could pull out the crossover and ask them to take a look at it and see what would be required to fix it. If you know how to use a multimeter and a soldering iron, have both, and have soldering skills, you might try it yourself, otherwise I suspect you're wasting your time.
  • polka boy
    polka boy Posts: 13
    edited March 2007
    What was the final resolution. You can't leave me hanging her like Lost or 24. I have a pair LSi7's that I plan to use at the bar in my basement and also a 1075, I also like to drink beer and turn it up. Am I too going to smoke the 7's?