Anthem vs Parasound?

billbillw
billbillw Posts: 6,765
edited February 2007 in 2 Channel Audio
Anyone here compare the two directly?

Really looking to compare something like the MCA-2 or MCA-20 to the HCA-1500a or HCA-2200ii. Anthem seems to be more assosicated with HT use, but the MCA-20 seems to be a pretty healthy 2ch amp, stable down to 2ohm.

Looks like we run into the age old comparison of bipolar versus MOSFET too.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited February 2007
    Toss Up, never heard a product from either company that did not sound excellent, sorry, but, well, OK if really pressed, Anthem, just because they make some excellent tube gear. Parasound is known for its bass extension.

    I know----buy both.


    RT1
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited February 2007
    You're SO helpful Ted!:rolleyes: ;):D:D:D

    And NO I don't want any tubes!:D
    Toss Up, never heard a product from either company that did not sound excellent, sorry, but, well, OK if really pressed, Anthem, just because they make some excellent tube gear. Parasound is known for its bass extension.

    I know----buy both.


    RT1
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,489
    edited February 2007
    I'd put the old Anthem amps (with the exception of the tubed input stage hybrid design) more on par with Rotel during the time period they were built than Parasound, meaning a slight notch below Parasound's HCA series in build and sound quality. Either is a good choice though. Buy both.
  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited February 2007
    I`m partial to Parasound myself, but have never owned Anthem gear...


    It`s hard to find a place to do an A/B on alot of different gear

    Sorry....wish I was more help...
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)


    :cool:
  • Ferres
    Ferres Posts: 310
    edited February 2007
    I've owned 1xHCA 2200II and 3xHCA 1200II's. Ive replaced them with a Rotel Rmb-1077. I'm very happy with the results. :)

    Don't get me wrong, these old parasound models are very good and built like tanks. The Rmb1077 just gave more detail and clarity with a far smaller footprint.
    Gear: Rotel RC 1082, Rotel RSP 1068 pre/pro, Rotel RMB1077 amp, Cayin CDT 15a CD player, S301 bluray.

    Speakers: Tannoy DC sensys speakers, Paradigm Servo15 Sub, Velo Spl-1500r

    Conditioner: Isotek :D
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,765
    edited February 2007
    No way am I going to a class D amp. I don't care about footprint and I don't believe that the sound is better. If it is, there was something wrong with the other amps.
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  • Ferres
    Ferres Posts: 310
    edited February 2007
    billbillw wrote:
    No way am I going to a class D amp. I don't care about footprint and I don't believe that the sound is better. If it is, there was something wrong with the other amps.

    ...will save you on the electric bill as well. :p
    Gear: Rotel RC 1082, Rotel RSP 1068 pre/pro, Rotel RMB1077 amp, Cayin CDT 15a CD player, S301 bluray.

    Speakers: Tannoy DC sensys speakers, Paradigm Servo15 Sub, Velo Spl-1500r

    Conditioner: Isotek :D
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited February 2007
    I give Parasound a plug, but sorry I haven't heard both. Other than that a fan of bipolar over MOSFET, Ted I'm still waiting ;)

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,765
    edited February 2007
    Well, thanks for all the input. I'm going to try a Parasound again (HCA-2200ii). Hopefully this time, it doesn't get damaged in shipping like the one a few weeks ago.
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited February 2007
    I've got both and love them both. For lower listening levels I prefer the tubed Anthem, but when needing to rock out a bit the PSound has the balls and headroom needed.
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited February 2007
    disneyjoe7 wrote:
    I give Parasound a plug, but sorry I haven't heard both. Other than that a fan of bipolar over MOSFET, Ted I'm still waiting ;)


    mosfet rules, you know what bi-polar does, its confused and needs drugs, just different sides on the audio coins. You did hear some Anthem DJ, we used them to bi-amp BDT's SRS. Hybrid, tubed and sand.

    RT1
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited February 2007
    Ya ok but I take my bi-polar trans anyday. Heck you can't have it all Mosfet and Tubes killer power cords.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • Ferres
    Ferres Posts: 310
    edited February 2007
    billbillw wrote:
    Well, thanks for all the input. I'm going to try a Parasound again (HCA-2200ii). Hopefully this time, it doesn't get damaged in shipping like the one a few weeks ago.

    Great Amp. :D

    This is the one that turned me to separates. :p
    Gear: Rotel RC 1082, Rotel RSP 1068 pre/pro, Rotel RMB1077 amp, Cayin CDT 15a CD player, S301 bluray.

    Speakers: Tannoy DC sensys speakers, Paradigm Servo15 Sub, Velo Spl-1500r

    Conditioner: Isotek :D
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2007
    I'm a lover of the tube hybrids from Anthem as they are just fun to listen to and enjoy.....Parasound is all about brutality and power.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,765
    edited February 2007
    dorokusai wrote:
    I'm a lover of the tube hybrids from Anthem as they are just fun to listen to and enjoy.....Parasound is all about brutality and power.

    Looks like your a fan of the John Curl work at least (CTC BBQ). I wasn't really looking at the hybrid Anthems, only the big solid states.

    I must admit, I thought the Parasounds used Mosfets, but I was mistaken. They use bipolar pairs for their outputs. They do use a pair of mosfets for the high voltage drivers. It all gets confusing for this Chem Engineer. Just when I thought I understood general amp topology, looking at these parasound schematics makes my head spin.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2007
    You would be correct, I'm a Curl head. I read a couple books, suprised I can read huh :) called High Power Amplifier Construction Manual(Slone) and Audio Power Amplifier Design Handbook(Self) if you want to get chunky. Both books are fairly user friendly but had me confused on more than one chapter at times.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,765
    edited February 2007
    Cool. Mind me asking how you ever got your hands on that BBQ? Luck, inside track, or just paid dearly for it!

    Maybe I'll look up some of those books if I ever get some free time.
    For rig details, see my profile. Nothing here anymore...
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2007
    Luck.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,765
    edited February 2007
    All I gotta say is WOW! What a difference a clean, high current 250+ watt amp makes with my Mirage! No regrets so far with the Parasound. System is kinda in transition right now, but pics to come soon (guts and arse too).
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited February 2007
    billbillw wrote:
    All I gotta say is WOW! What a difference a clean, high current 250+ watt amp makes with my Mirage! No regrets so far with the Parasound. System is kinda in transition right now, but pics to come soon (guts and arse too).

    I was very interested in this thread and I'm glad to hear what you've written above. I just purchased a Parasound HCA-1000A that I am planning to use on the vertical bi-amping of my 1.2 TLs. I'm going to use the 565 mono blocks on the low freqs and the Parasound on the high. Doro told me that I would love it and now you are making me drool while waiting for the darn thing.:)
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited February 2007
    Congrats Bill! Yes a great deal of difference is made when you put that much power to a pair of speakers!:D
    billbillw wrote:
    All I gotta say is WOW! What a difference a clean, high current 250+ watt amp makes with my Mirage! No regrets so far with the Parasound. System is kinda in transition right now, but pics to come soon (guts and arse too).
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited February 2007
    All sounds good, I too really enjoy my Parasound amps.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited February 2007
    I also have the 1000A..

    and an HCA-3500..

    I really like Parasound...







    ...and Cary !!
    :D
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)


    :cool:
  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited February 2007
    my rig in the Garage consists of;

    Parasound HCA-1000A amp
    Parasound P/HP-850 pre amp
    Parasound T/DQ-1600 Broadcast Reference Tuner
    AQ King Cobra / Diamondback I/C`s
    Munster Cable Speak cable
    Polk RT38i`s

    Sounds pretty good for a Garage System..
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)


    :cool:
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited February 2007
    The address I be right over.

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited February 2007
    yer always welcome here bro..!!

    those that are not welcome....well let`s just say they won`t be leaving the same way they arrived !
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)


    :cool:
  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited February 2007
    beardog03 wrote:
    yer always welcome here bro..!!
    Thanks maybe some day I could do it. Look me up if you're ever around Orlando.

    those that are not welcome....well let`s just say they won`t be leaving the same way they arrived !

    LOL :D

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited February 2007
    The amp in my Main Rig id the HCA-3500

    It`s got less than 200 hrs on it

    very much MINTY !


    I don`t believe that I have ever heard an Anthem amp to tell you the truth

    My HT rig has a HCA-2205A 5 CH amp for the surround

    I guess I`m kinda Biased...

    I just realized how many Parasound pieces I have...damn
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)


    :cool:
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,765
    edited February 2007
    Sheeuut! Beardog, you sound like you own stock in Parasound! Must be the local Bay Area influence. Support your locals eh?
    For rig details, see my profile. Nothing here anymore...
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited February 2007
    Isn't there a Parasound office across town from you BD??? I was talking with Polk65 and he said it is not far from where he lives. I think the closest company to me that I really care about is VPI but I can never find it when I used to travel to that area.