My Marantz arrived, but damaged

apc
apc Posts: 779
edited February 2007 in 2 Channel Audio
Just received a beautiful vintage Marantz, but it was slightly damaged in transit. Any hints or advice regarding the straightening of a bent corner? Words of wisdom deeply appreciated. Illustration attached. Thanks!


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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2007
    Damn,, just damn. Not that it helps,but was it insured?
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  • joeparaski
    joeparaski Posts: 1,865
    edited February 2007
    I would say you need to take it apart and put the corner of the face plate in a large vice. Use some protection on the jaws of the vice so as to not scratch the face plate.

    Joe
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited February 2007
    Keep in mind you may very well just be weakening the faceplate even more if you attempt to straighten it out, and might even end up snapping that corner off entirely.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2007
    ^^^what he said ^^^^^
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  • apc
    apc Posts: 779
    edited February 2007
    Crap. I didn't think about snapping it off. The thing that sux the most is the unit is mint other than the new bend. The guy I bought it from is equally sick and offered refund, but I want unit and will even keep as is if need be. You've raised another question in my mind...attempt to straighten vs live with damage. Crap again.
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  • joeparaski
    joeparaski Posts: 1,865
    edited February 2007
    I don't think any part of it will snap off. Those faceplates are plenty thick, plus, he doesn't need to bend it back all that much either. But in order to do it right, the faceplace needs to come off and get "squeezed" between to flat surfaces.

    I know this because one of the vintage amps I got had a corner bent like that, and let me tell you that it's next to impossible to straighten in out in place like that.

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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited February 2007
    What model is it?
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  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,335
    edited February 2007
    apc,

    Hang on to the receiver and be patient. Work a deal with the seller to kick you back some coin. Face plates show up all the time on eBay of some of the other parts, sellers on line. You may even be able to find a whole unit that is broken and has a nice face for just a few bucks. Sorry to hear about the misfortune, but don't get too discouraged. Stay in it for the long run. Buy another vintage receiver until you can get the parts to make this one a show room piece. Good luck!
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited February 2007
    try a body shop that does stuff by hand...or a bike shop that does custom bikes

    They make and bend fenders and tanks all the time..ya might find an old metal fab guy from the old days that can fix er up..

    Just a thought...

    Probably the best solution is to wait until you find a replacement face like stated earlier..

    That`s a real bummer man.....

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  • Deadof_knight
    Deadof_knight Posts: 980
    edited February 2007
    There doesnt seem to be a real crease in it so the danger of snapping it off it relativley low. Take your time cover it in masking tape and straighten it. Of course after youve recieved reimbursement from the seller or shipper one. That one looks to be easy.....
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,497
    edited February 2007
    Sorry to see that vintage piece damaged. I had a guy ship an amp to me that got damaged. "Oh yes, it will be packed well...." One layer of bubblewrap and he tossed it into a box.

    Aluminum is soft and stretches easily. As long as you don’t bend it back and forth, it won’t break off. Cast aluminum would snap, but that isn’t cast.

    I've used a couple of pieces of scrap hardwood with some duct tape over it. Pine wood is too soft. You can use the vice with hardwood on either side, or lay it down on some hardwood, lay another piece of hardwood on it and give the wood a whack directly above the bend crease. Whatever you feel most comfortable with.

    I had an amp with a bent faceplate that came out OK. It was done with the hammer method. It is faster and doesn't flex and heat the area as much as slowly bending it. The repair won’t be perfect, but at least it won’t be so obvious.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2007
    That faceplate is damaged beyond what SComp encountered....good luck, but you're out of it. That piece will never be the same and any hint of resale is in the toilet.
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited February 2007
    schwarcw wrote:
    apc,

    Hang on to the receiver and be patient. Work a deal with the seller to kick you back some coin. Face plates show up all the time on eBay of some of the other parts, sellers on line. You may even be able to find a whole unit that is broken and has a nice face for just a few bucks. Sorry to hear about the misfortune, but don't get too discouraged. Stay in it for the long run. Buy another vintage receiver until you can get the parts to make this one a show room piece. Good luck!

    I agree with Carl,there are folks parting out vintage pieces all the time,there are a few vintage gear sites around,,,find one and ask questions,something will come up....good luck
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited February 2007
    Get your money back.
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  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited February 2007
    The aluminum may need to be heated before bending it back to avoid cracking.
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,489
    edited February 2007
    Early B. wrote:
    Get your money back.

    Ditto. It's the seller's problem to deal with.
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  • Deadof_knight
    Deadof_knight Posts: 980
    edited February 2007
    Hey , I orded a new face plate from carver for my tfm-35 30.00 makes the amp look like brand new..... Mine was just scratched up ...I got it from a pawn shop.

    If it cracks or starts it will crack on the back side first. In the pics it doesnt look to be bent so bad it will crack on the way back........
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