Combining 2 CH rig and HT rig

Ern Dog
Ern Dog Posts: 2,237
edited April 2007 in 2 Channel Audio
This year I'm planning on getting a dedicated cdp and a 2 channel tube preamp. I'm trying to figure how I'll hook this 2 channel rig to combine it with my HT, as I'd like to keep my HK.

I'm thinking the best way to do this would be to put splitters on the inputs on my B&K amp- one coming from the HK and the other from the tube pre. Will this work? Any better ideas?
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited February 2007
    It'll work, just make sure they (pre/sources) aren't ever on at the same time. Shouldn't hurt anything, but stay on the safe side.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited February 2007
    separate 2 ch speakers and mains?
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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  • Ern Dog
    Ern Dog Posts: 2,237
    edited February 2007
    I have a livingroom to fit it all in, so 2 ch speakers and mains need to be the same.
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited February 2007
    What I did is take my 7.1 pre pro use the line out to an input on my channel pre pro. Then you just set your tube pre at a level that matches the rest of your HT setup. I don't like to add things in the signal path, but HT takes second place to 2 channel in my house. The only thing I don't really like about my suggestion is that you have to run your tube pre when HT is in use.

    Ben
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited February 2007
    ben62670 wrote:
    What I did is take my 7.1 pre pro use the line out to an input on my channel pre pro. Then you just set your tube pre at a level that matches the rest of your HT setup. I don't like to add things in the signal path, but HT takes second place to 2 channel in my house. The only thing I don't really like about my suggestion is that you have to run your tube pre when HT is in use.

    Yeah, this is what I do, as well. Works fine.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • adam2434
    adam2434 Posts: 995
    edited February 2007
    Early B. wrote:
    Yeah, this is what I do, as well. Works fine.

    I also do this. It is a compromise, but one that puts 2-ch as the higher priority. You will need set your 2-ch pre to a specific level (I use about half way on the volume knob) and calibrate the HT channel levels as you normally would. Then you need to set the 2-ch pre at that specific level every time for HT. I've never noticed any detrimental effects of doing this.

    The other route would be to get a 2-ch pre with a HT pass-through, which bypasses the pre's circuitry as if it wasn't there.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited February 2007
    Pick up a nice tube pre with HT bypass & you're all set to go. It works great & gives you the best of both worlds without sacrificing anything.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited February 2007
    Pick up a nice tube pre with HT bypass & you're all set to go. It works great & gives you the best of both worlds without sacrificing anything.


    That's the ticket. The Dodd MLP is oh soooo nice and has this option, Russman has the new battery operated Dodd and gives it high marks as well. Some of the Dodd ELP's had the HT option as well, if you find one that does not, Gary Dodd can modd it. The HT pre/pro should have pre-outs as well. You will not be burning tube time when in HT mode.

    RT1
  • Ern Dog
    Ern Dog Posts: 2,237
    edited February 2007
    Thanks for the suggestions.
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited February 2007
    That's the ticket. The Dodd MLP is oh soooo nice and has this option, Russman has the new battery operated Dodd and gives it high marks as well. Some of the Dodd ELP's had the HT option as well, if you find one that does not, Gary Dodd can modd it. The HT pre/pro should have pre-outs as well. You will not be burning tube time when in HT mode.

    RT1
    Do you know how the battery system works? Does it charge when not in use to keep noise down? I am using a 12v crossover in my 2 channel rig, and it works great with a computer power supply running it. I just want to cut down on noise from the power supply. Fan and electrical.

    Sorry about the high jack
    Ben
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • C3 Audio
    C3 Audio Posts: 43
    edited February 2007
    ben62670 wrote:
    Do you know how the battery system works? Does it charge when not in use to keep noise down? I am using a 12v crossover in my 2 channel rig, and it works great with a computer power supply running it. I just want to cut down on noise from the power supply. Fan and electrical.

    Sorry about the high jack
    Ben
    Ben,
    Russman talks about the battery system in this link:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46226

    Take care,
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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited February 2007
    Pick up a nice tube pre with HT bypass & you're all set to go. It works great & gives you the best of both worlds without sacrificing anything.

    This is the best option by far. I do the same with my 2 channel preamp that has HT pybass, so my system is discrete 2 channel and 5 channel in one system.
    Venom
  • Ern Dog
    Ern Dog Posts: 2,237
    edited April 2007
    Early B. wrote: »
    Yeah, this is what I do, as well. Works fine.

    Brad, Ben or Adam
    Can you explain more specifically how to do this. I've got a tube preamp on the way that doesn't have a HT bypass and want to try your suggestion instead of using splitters at the amp. thanks
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited April 2007
    Ern Dog wrote: »
    Brad, Ben or Adam
    Can you explain more specifically how to do this. I've got a tube preamp on the way that doesn't have a HT bypass and want to try your suggestion instead of using splitters at the amp. thanks

    Ben explained it in the first two sentences of post #5.

    The speakers are connected to a 2-channel amp, and the amp is connected to your 2-channel preamp. Run a set of RCA cables from the front L&R preouts on my receiver to one of the unused inputs (i.e., AUX) on the 2-channel preamp. So whenever you want to watch a movie, turn on the preamp, switch the input to AUX, and set the volume on the preamp to noon (or wherever it works best for you; use an SPL meter). While the movie is playing, the receiver will send the front L&R signals through the preamp, to the 2-channel amp, then onto the speakers.

    Hope this clarifies it.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • Ern Dog
    Ern Dog Posts: 2,237
    edited April 2007
    I got it. thanks for the clarification.