Receiver Suggestions? (for rti10)

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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited February 2007
    I had a Pio 1015, and took it back after a week. My 635 blows it away, in my opinion.

    I would assume the same is correct when comparing the 1016 to the 245/345/445/645.
    Stereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
    Bedroom: Samsung HPR-4252, Toshiba HD-A2, HK 3480, Signal Cable, AQ speaker cable, Totem Dreamcatchers, SVS PB10-NSD, URC MX-850
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  • rjinla
    rjinla Posts: 25
    edited February 2007
    After spending all day doing my research I am going with the HK 245 and 2 m2200's

    If I ever want more features in a receiver, I'll just replace the HK and keep the 2 m2200's rocking the speakers.

    Now off to research good interconnects and speaker cable ;)

    The spending never ends!
    -RJ
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited February 2007
    I had a yamaha and my HK sounds way more natural than the yamaha. Anyone want to buy a Yamaha hardly used.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited February 2007
    Enjoy!

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48819

    Signal Cable, Blue Jeans, and/or Zebra would be good one stop shops for all cable needs on the cheap. . . but great quality.
    Stereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
    Bedroom: Samsung HPR-4252, Toshiba HD-A2, HK 3480, Signal Cable, AQ speaker cable, Totem Dreamcatchers, SVS PB10-NSD, URC MX-850
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited February 2007
    ben62670 wrote:
    OK seeing Yamaha doesn't have pre-out till you spend big dollars thats out,

    Not true. Yammie's in the 599.00 price range have pre-outs. It may be a little bright for the Rti's but it's got the pre-outs.
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited February 2007
    MSALLA wrote:
    Not true. Yammie's in the 599.00 price range have pre-outs. It may be a little bright for the Rti's but it's got the pre-outs.


    Never checked that model out. Stopped looking at them after I bought mine, and retired it. Like you said to bright (artifically bright/grainy).

    Stand corrected

    Ben
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited February 2007
    dood check out this thread these are an awesome deal for a pre/power with free shipping 899

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48901
    2 CHANNEL
    Speaker - Klipsch Heresy II
    Under construction
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,070
    edited February 2007
    I went from a rxv 540 to my HK335 and in the process of buying 2 more outlaw monos. My Hk sounds much better than the yamaha, and by far. Not sure where Lush is coming from saying something about HK being an old name....HK makes great products

    I'm sure you will just be delighted using your HK and outlaw monos.
    As for IC, I use Audioquest and some AR pro series II.

    Keep us posted as to how you like your new setup once it's all put together.
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  • LuSh
    LuSh Posts: 887
    edited February 2007
    Before people start jumping up and down, I have no doubt HK makes some nice products, the question at hand was what receiver to use as a pre-pro. I still stand by my previous comments. Willow, with all do respect I would hope the HK sounded better, because if memory serves me correct its about $800 more in price.
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited February 2007
    Yes, but no one pays MSRP for HK, so the $800 difference is probably more like a couple hundred bucks. If you look at street prices, the 635 I got was only about $100 more than the Pioneer it replaced. . . and smoked to a cripsy charred state of inediblity.
    Stereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
    Bedroom: Samsung HPR-4252, Toshiba HD-A2, HK 3480, Signal Cable, AQ speaker cable, Totem Dreamcatchers, SVS PB10-NSD, URC MX-850
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  • LuSh
    LuSh Posts: 887
    edited February 2007
    I can't comment on that Andy. I can only comment on the MSRP's I see. Beside's if the industry starts to buy through grey market like it has done in the past with two channel...you might see companies like HK start marketing more HTIB's and lower end receivers.
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  • rjinla
    rjinla Posts: 25
    edited February 2007
    Willow wrote:
    I went from a rxv 540 to my HK335 and in the process of buying 2 more outlaw monos. My Hk sounds much better than the yamaha, and by far. Not sure where Lush is coming from saying something about HK being an old name....HK makes great products

    I'm sure you will just be delighted using your HK and outlaw monos.
    As for IC, I use Audioquest and some AR pro series II.

    Keep us posted as to how you like your new setup once it's all put together.

    I definitely will. Originally I had plan to read up here post a bit then disappear, but this community seems really interesting now, and pretty damn active! So I will be sticking around. Unless work and life get too busy haha.

    Also, I ended up getting the HK 245 for $350 +30 shipping, no tax, and each M block for $325, so $650 + $70 shipping, no tax.

    Just around what my budget was. I really like the idea that, if I don't like the AVR, it was only a $350 investment which I can go and replace easily, and if I do like it, will be an easy upgrade down the road.

    I'm real eager to piece this together. More than likely will be next weekend. This rig will be mostly for music, but I do like watching TV and being able to hear it. Love my Samsung DLP, but the speakers on it suck. Haha
    -RJ
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited February 2007
    I'm a little late, but I went your route with the HK 235. No HDMI, but same features as the newer model. Anyway as a cheap pre/pro it does a great job. The 445 and 645 have better DACs than the entry level HKs, EQ (which can be nice), but I don't know if they really sound better when using separate amps. As you said, it's a nice economical solution and you can always upgrade later.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited February 2007
    LuSh wrote:
    I can't comment on that Andy. I can only comment on the MSRP's I see. Beside's if the industry starts to buy through grey market like it has done in the past with two channel...you might see companies like HK start marketing more HTIB's and lower end receivers.

    I think HK is doing what they need to stay ahead of the curve. Higher MSRPs make products seem better than lower MSRP products. . . and people like getting or thinking they are getting a deal. It's probably just good marketing on their part to set the bar so high. Also, any company that has a solid presence on ebay, like HK does, knows where the market is heading. By owning the ebay refurbished HKs, HK keeps that revenue in-house and gets to move B, demo, refurb products for a fair price. That lowers their need for warehousing / inventory of those products and allows them to spend that money on R&D, internal components, etc.

    Good for everyone, if you ask me. Viva la HK!!!
    Stereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
    Bedroom: Samsung HPR-4252, Toshiba HD-A2, HK 3480, Signal Cable, AQ speaker cable, Totem Dreamcatchers, SVS PB10-NSD, URC MX-850
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  • ledhed
    ledhed Posts: 1,088
    edited February 2007
    Ron Temple wrote:
    I'm a little late, but I went your route with the HK 235. No HDMI, but same features as the newer model. Anyway as a cheap pre/pro it does a great job. The 445 and 645 have better DACs than the entry level HKs, EQ (which can be nice), but I don't know if they really sound better when using separate amps. As you said, it's a nice economical solution and you can always upgrade later.

    You might want to look into these: http://www.emotiva.com/bpa1.html
    God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. - Romans 5:8
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited February 2007
    How would Rjinla benefit from the emotiva? He's looking at the HK245 and 2 monoblocks, so I don't see where this would fit in?
    Stereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
    Bedroom: Samsung HPR-4252, Toshiba HD-A2, HK 3480, Signal Cable, AQ speaker cable, Totem Dreamcatchers, SVS PB10-NSD, URC MX-850
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  • ledhed
    ledhed Posts: 1,088
    edited February 2007
    AndyGwis wrote:
    How would Rjinla benefit from the emotiva? He's looking at the HK245 and 2 monoblocks, so I don't see where this would fit in?
    Emotiva wrote:
    It can be used as a full range amplifier for each of your speakers. If your receiver has pre outputs, replace those wimpy internal amps with one BPA-1 for each main channel!

    Seems like it pretty much is a monoblock to me-150wpc in bridged mode
    God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. - Romans 5:8
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  • LuSh
    LuSh Posts: 887
    edited February 2007
    Actually Andy, what you have mentioned has a ripple effect. It also erodes their dealer base and soon they can only sell their products via Ebay. This has already happened in Canada as Harman Kardon isn't sold at any high end shops and instead is sold online or through mid-fi big box stores.

    Regardless, the thread has been derailed enough, enjoy your HK I'm sure it sounds great.
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  • ronnie
    ronnie Posts: 150
    edited February 2007
    go get a yammie rxv2600 (you can get them alot cheaper now than what i paid for mine) and one adcom gfa555 and you will never look back. yamaha doesn't sound bright to me, and dollar per features you can't go wrong. stay away from the htr series. me and 3 other people i know have had bad experiences with them. they say there built the same as the rxv line, but i strongly disagree
    Yamaha RX-V2600
    Adcom GFA555 x 2 :D
    Yamaha CD685 cd changer
    Yamaha Dvd c950 dvd changer
    Polk RTi12 mains
    Polk CSi3 center
    Polk psw303
    Polk RTi6 (surround and surround back)
    Acoustic Research 12in 200 watt sub(8 years old and still hits hard:D)
    WindyWillys cooling fan (works great)
    Mitsubishi 52in big screen
    blue jeans cables
    AR interconnects
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited February 2007
    ledhed wrote:
    You might want to look into these: http://www.emotiva.com/bpa1.html
    ledhed, if you're talkiing to me, I did look. Don't need a mult-channel amp at the moment. I'm running my fronts with a 2 channel Carver and my center with a bridged mono amp with 200@8. When I upgrade all round, I might consider a 5 or 7 channel amp, but it's just not a wise investment now. I'm pretty happy.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,070
    edited February 2007
    LuSh wrote:
    This has already happened in Canada as Harman Kardon isn't sold at any high end shops and instead is sold online or through mid-fi big box stores..

    Which is where I bought my 335 for 700$ and as an FYI I bought my rxv540 for 600$ when it first came out. It's not that the 540 was a bad reciever just didn't cut it for me it's now powering my r15s in the bedroom. I don't care who sells what, I care for a good/great product for the best price. Here's the thing around my place, either you go to a box store where they don't know ****, or go to a highend store where they think they are the ****... it's 6 of one half a dozen of the other. So I go where I can get the best price. I don't care about CS as I walk in buy and leave. I do my research on my own.
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,070
    edited February 2007
    rjinla wrote:
    I definitely will. Originally I had plan to read up here post a bit then disappear, but this community seems really interesting now, and pretty damn active! So I will be sticking around. Unless work and life get too busy haha.

    Also, I ended up getting the HK 245 for $350 +30 shipping, no tax, and each M block for $325, so $650 + $70 shipping, no tax.

    Just around what my budget was. I really like the idea that, if I don't like the AVR, it was only a $350 investment which I can go and replace easily, and if I do like it, will be an easy upgrade down the road.

    I'm real eager to piece this together. More than likely will be next weekend. This rig will be mostly for music, but I do like watching TV and being able to hear it. Love my Samsung DLP, but the speakers on it suck. Haha


    Don't forget pics....for some reason this forum loves pics....
    Congrats on the deals you scored. You'll be very happy. I have no complaints with my current set up cept I'm waiting on 2 more monoblocks...which by then end of Feb I will have.
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  • LuSh
    LuSh Posts: 887
    edited February 2007
    It is the best price mentaility that has ultimately driven the small guy out of business. To each his own.
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  • rjinla
    rjinla Posts: 25
    edited February 2007
    Willow wrote:
    Don't forget pics....for some reason this forum loves pics....
    Congrats on the deals you scored. You'll be very happy. I have no complaints with my current set up cept I'm waiting on 2 more monoblocks...which by then end of Feb I will have.

    Will do! I'm in a pretty new place too, some excuses to finally take pics cuz everyones wanted to see it.

    I'm pretty psyched to get this all going.
    -RJ
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited February 2007
    Congrats RJ! Welcome to CP. I look forward to the pictures & the impressions you have of your new system!
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • rjinla
    rjinla Posts: 25
    edited February 2007
    Just an update.

    Got everything in. Hoping to hook things up this weekend.

    I'm sure I'll run into snags, but hope I'm prepared, plus I know you guys are here as well. ;)

    I didn't buy any good interconnects yet, I am going to hook it up temporary with cheap cable to figure out placement and exact lengths of cables I need before I go ordering the good stuff ;)
    -RJ
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