Perhaps there's some hope for the Middle East:

mrbigbluelight

One Voice Movement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34bVcLMrcRs

Perhaps, just perhaps ......

I'm going to have to do a little more reading on this group to see if it is merely a front for ? or if it really is a grassroots movement of the millions of people who are affected by the extremists to be found on all sides.

hearingimpared

Wow is this really possible in such a divided land. You get so much negativity from the media and so much politics and so much hyperbole on talk radio . . . why can't the media show this clip on the 6 O'clock news???

tonyb

why can't the media show this clip on the 6 O'clock news???


For the same reason nobody is posting any response to this thread.
Bad news sells more than good news.If this thread started out with terrible news comming out of Iraq,there would be 50 post under it.

bobman1235

I don't think anyone doubts that there are individuals, perhaps even large groups of individuals, with a desire for peace in the Middle East. The problem is how hard it is for them to overthrow THOUSANDS of years of corrupt and extremist government rule.

The largest military force on the planet (America) couldn't even get ONE Middle Eastern government under control, how are these schmoes going to get all of them?

up2youjoe

There will never be peace in the Middle East. There hasn't been in 5000 years. When you send your 5 year old to school and show them cartoons that show if you blow yourself up you are doing a good thing I don't think you want peace. Give them their own state and they will then tell you it's not enough we want more(Jerusalem). Iran and Syria will ALWAYS fund the terrorists and then watch from afar.

Millions of people in Iraq want peace but a few of them don't and look what you have. Money and weapons being funneled to terrorists.

When we walk away from that fight, we will be fighting them here again.

Never pick up and a gun unless you are fully prepared to pull the trigger. Unfortunately for our soldiers, our government gives them guns, and the State department takes away their ammo.

GaryZ06

As stated above there will never be peace in the Middle East....never....Remember we are not fighting a country or organized military like we did in WWI and WWII......We are fighting an Ideology....a way of thinking...brainwashing.Remember when our small kids are going to Chucky Cheese their kids are learning to kill..This is a never ending supply of evil..We celebrate life....They celebrate and look forward to death....Our people in the military don't want to die their's do....Again anyone who thinks there will be peace over there is only fooling themselves.I can really go into this but not now.

bikezappa

Interesting!

Reminds me of the Peace Movement of the 60's.

I'd like to know what you find out about this group mrbigbluelight. It must be an improvemnet over the present policy.

TV and the media including all the talk shows appear to want to phrase these issues as "Them or Us" with limited and cherry picked data to support any view.

I think the trueth is found by following the money trail.

wingnut4772

I think a movement like this would work given a LOT of time. It may be too late given the current condition there but it is nice to see.

mrbigbluelight

bikezappa wrote:

Interesting!
Reminds me of the Peace Movement of the 60's.
TV and the media including all the talk shows appear to want to phrase these issues as "Them or Us" with limited and cherry picked data to support any view.

It would be interesting if this conflict could be resolved from the bottom up.

Looking at sources for One Voice shows some interesting work they've done in the Phillipines to expose massive fraud in the "Cha Cha" movement (a movement to supposedly amend the Phillipine constitution, but actually rewrites it).

I'm still looking, still reading, trying to find something that shows this One Voice organization is merely a tool for ?

A lot of folks on-line are looking at this movement skeptically, and rightfully so.
Once bitten, twice shy.
Wouldn't it be nice, though, if this movement is what it appears to be.

http://www.voice-mag.co.uk/?d=8 shows a typical thread.

bikezappa

mrbigbluelight a quote from your thread.

"to try getting a representative picture of what the Israeli and Palestinian publics want."

That is very rare these days. We are rightly or wrongly mostly told what we want in our media.

scottnbnj

this will take generations of incremental change just as it took generations for the u.s. to come as far as it has in regard to racism. the more pressure we apply against the murderers and nutjobs and the consistency of our support for freedom will be deciding factors in how long it takes.