I tried the Telefunken ECC83's (12AX7) and liked them

candyliquor35m
candyliquor35m Posts: 2,267
edited January 2007 in 2 Channel Audio
I know this has been covered before directly or indirectly but hasn't everything else :D These are NOS and readily available on ebay everyday of the week so don't rush out and pay more than $40 per tube. There must have been millions of them made because they were so popular. Here comes solid state and these gems are left over for the rest of us to enjoy. The smooth plates are the most popular with the <> stamped/engraved on the bottom. I bought the Fisher branded ones and saved a few bucks but they're supposed to be the same tube.

Review: more airy, more tubey, more analogish, more lively. Sorry I'm not the greatest review writer :o
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited January 2007
    Cool. Glad you like 'em.

    What component are you using them in?
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  • pblanc
    pblanc Posts: 261
    edited January 2007
    $40 per tube for NOS Tele ECC83s is very cheap if they are genuine. There is said to be a lot of "Telejunk" on ebay these days, ie, relabled fake Tele tubes. It sounds like you are happy with these. I have one pair of Tele ECC83s and would love to get some more. Mind telling us who you got them from?
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  • candyliquor35m
    candyliquor35m Posts: 2,267
    edited January 2007
    Early B. wrote:
    Cool. Glad you like 'em.

    What component are you using them in?

    The Audio Experience (AE) Symphonies pre that I bought from unc2701 over a year ago now.
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  • candyliquor35m
    candyliquor35m Posts: 2,267
    edited January 2007
    pblanc wrote:
    $40 per tube for NOS Tele ECC83s is very cheap if they are genuine. There is said to be a lot of "Telejunk" on ebay these days, ie, relabled fake Tele tubes. It sounds like you are happy with these. I have one pair of Tele ECC83s and would love to get some more. Mind telling us who you got them from?

    The user was walden-puddle and they have a ebay store:

    http://stores.ebay.com/Walden-Puddle-Vintage-Audio-Tubes

    They sound nos but I don't know all the tricks that are out there.
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited January 2007
    Cool. Those are my fav X7 so far. The bass extension is amazing and has great clarity from the mids to highs.

    What you got is most likely a used tube that still tests good or new. Great way to get some nice tube cheap. A lot of my 6dj8/6922 are used but still test strong. $40 for NOS is a steal if they're nos. NOS usually go >$100/tube
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited January 2007
    The ASL-20's use one 12AX7 each; I just got a pair of Ei Elites (and Sovtek 5881's for power...the stocks didn't get to the bias values any more). Is the function of the 12A?7 in a power amp similar to that of a preamp in terms of signature definition? I think I will keep these for some time, maybe upgrade some caps...but need some input for tube rolling.

    Sorry for the hijack:o
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited January 2007
    If your ASL is a push pull design, the tube is probably used as a splitter to seperate the +ve and -ve portions of the signal. The way I see it, if there's a tube in the signal path, it will add its own signature along the way.
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  • candyliquor35m
    candyliquor35m Posts: 2,267
    edited January 2007
    organ wrote:
    Cool. Those are my fav X7 so far. The bass extension is amazing and has great clarity from the mids to highs.

    What you got is most likely a used tube that still tests good or new. Great way to get some nice tube cheap. A lot of my 6dj8/6922 are used but still test strong. $40 for NOS is a steal if they're nos. NOS usually go >$100/tube

    I'm glad you brought this up because I didn't know what to call a used tube that's not being made anymore if there is such a word. Mine were used of course and not New Old Stock which I assume is what NOS means. Used out of production I guess would have been a good description.
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  • fredv
    fredv Posts: 923
    edited January 2007
    View this as a joke. Many months ago, when I bought my very first integrated tube amp, I bought some used tubes and a few NOS from the same retired electrician. Since the tubes and the boxes were so dirty, I decided to clean them up, and I didn't know the silk screen was that easy to wipe out. Guess what, all the tubes were shinely, but I had no way to tell what they are any more!!! Lately, I went back to the batch and found some with the <> in the bottom, I can tell some are 6DJ8 as they have very distinct structure; however, I have no way to tell what the ? is from some 12A?7. I learned that the Tele 12AT7 has short plate, so I think they are either 12AU7 or 12AX7 rib plate, but that's all I can conclude :-)

    -fredv-
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  • pblanc
    pblanc Posts: 261
    edited January 2007
    Thanks. I will check them out.
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