Amp analogy

PSOVLSK
PSOVLSK Posts: 5,235
edited January 2007 in Electronics
Was hoping someone could give me a analogy between amps and ??? What I'm wanting is, for example, Rotel=Cadillac Adcom=Chevy Parasound= Hyundai. Unless I got very lucky, you can tell that I have no idea on the subject. Also, I know this can be very subjective, but I'd love to see what some of you have to say.

Thanks
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  • Lsi9
    Lsi9 Posts: 616
    edited January 2007
    As a Rotel user I would say Rotel= Toyota Avalon, excellent car for the money.
    Same thing with
    Outlaw=Honda, very good & reliable.:)

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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited January 2007
    LOL,
    That is a tough analogy. Many brands of amps make "budget" models and flagship models alike. It is too subjective on an automotive side and on the amp side to compare. More important than the amp is the symetry between it and the other components and mainly the speakers requirements.

    If you are in the market for an amp and would like some recommendations, the best thing would be to list your current system, music or HT use, etc... to better match an amp to those requirements. We would be glad to give you some pointers.
    Venom
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited January 2007
    hey, hey, hey...my amp ain't no hyundai....LOL
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited January 2007
    There are so many levels in audio its just not that simple, alot depends on what you want the rig to do.

    RT1
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited January 2007
    my Marantz mono block amp is a unicycle :p
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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited January 2007
    I guess I have Honda Accord, Toyota Corolla and a Porsche 911 ?.
  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited January 2007
    I have classic cars.
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited January 2007
    I shop in the junker section of the used car lot.
    Stereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited January 2007
    AndyGwis wrote:
    I shop in the junker section of the used car lot.

    Sometimes you can find a jewel in a junkyard.
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


    Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek:
  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited January 2007
    I guess I have a Triumph TR7.:D
    I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D
  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,235
    edited January 2007
    I hear you guys. I know it's all very subjective, I just thought it would be interesting to see your thoughts. How about relating it to other audio instead of cars? For example: Rotel=H/K, Parasound=Sony, Adcom=Pioneer. I think most would agree that H/K is better than Sony, etc. (This is of course assuming the same level. I know a top of the line SonyES is better than an entry level H/K). I know many brands will fall somewhere in the middle, but there also has to be a higher end brand and lower end brand.

    I wouldn't say that I'm necessarily in the market for an amp right now. I was just fishing for knowledge so that when I read an "amp thread" I have an idea what type of equipment people are talking about. When someone mentions that they have Polk R50's driven by an H/K 625, I know what they're talking about. When talking amps, I have very limited knowledge.

    When I do decide to buy, I will be looking in the used lot also:D
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited January 2007
    I still don't think you're going to get quite the answer you want. I think we could probably do a rundown top to bottom of some more common brands & models, but the generalizations you're looking for just don't work.

    Example: Most people would put Bryston as a brand ahead of Parasound, but in a matchup between a 4B SST vs a pair of JC-1 monoblocks, I'd give the nod to the parasounds... But someone else might have a totally different ordering in their list. I really don't like Sunfire amps, but other people here love them. It's largely personal taste.
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  • Mike682
    Mike682 Posts: 2,074
    edited January 2007
    PSOVLSK wrote:
    I was just fishing for knowledge so that when I read an "amp thread" I have an idea what type of equipment people are talking about. When someone mentions that they have Polk R50's driven by an H/K 625, I know what they're talking about. When talking amps, I have very limited knowledge.

    Audio is a subjective hobby. Yes there are objective measures like watts, etc., that can be found at manufacturer's sites. However, listening to gear will give you the personal experience you want/need to compare and relate to what posters say here about their gear.

    Head out to hifi shops and listen to everything to get a feel for different brands. Check out friend's systems also. Over time you will develop your own "database" in your mind which you can then relate to posters' comments.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited January 2007
    My other amp is a Corvair :confused: :rolleyes: ;)
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited January 2007
    IMO, I would rate Rotel, Parasound, and ADCOM as pretty much all the same "tier." Though personally I'd choose a Parasound or Rotel of the 3. The Parasound JC-1 would be my "cost-no-object" choice.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,235
    edited January 2007
    thanks for the replies. Although I didn't get exactly the answers I was hoping for, I did gain some useful knowledge. I think I can make the assumption that Rotel, Parasound, Adcom are all pretty equal...just a matter of personal preference. Much like H/K, Onkyo, Denon??
    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden
  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,235
    edited January 2007
    My reasons for posting now are two-fold...to get help and to get my post count to 25. New post coming.
    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden
  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,235
    edited January 2007
    I noticed the Adcom GFA 535 in the classifieds. Would this amp drive my LSi 7's? I am currently driving them in a 7.1 system with an H/K 7300. Would I see any improvement? If not, would it be worth it just to take the strain off of the H/K?

    Thanks.
    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2007
    danger boy wrote:
    my Marantz mono block amp is a unicycle :p

    ROTFLMAO!
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited January 2007
    PSOVLSK wrote:
    thanks for the replies. Although I didn't get exactly the answers I was hoping for, I did gain some useful knowledge. I think I can make the assumption that Rotel, Parasound, Adcom are all pretty equal...just a matter of personal preference. Much like H/K, Onkyo, Denon??

    I personally wouldn't agree to that. I wouldn't trade my Parasound for any HK, Onkyo, or Denon on the planet. Different league in my opinion.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,235
    edited January 2007
    I didn't state what I meant very well. My point was that H/K, Onkyo, Denon are somewhat equivilant to each other, not that they are equal to Parasound, Rotel, Adcom.
    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden