Help on choosing a amp and subwoofer

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  • cam5860
    cam5860 Posts: 632
    edited December 2007
    Any company that is worth a damn can design one to do both. Have good sound quality and get loud without sounding like ****. Anybody on this forum that thinks DB subs are good is stupid. They are like any other sub with a small xmax. They sound like **** when you turn them up. Damn cone popping, distorting, etc.... Anybody can design a sub to sound good with the volume level at 15 out of 30.

    Thats just like the DB series components. Yeah they sound decent for the money but the passive crossovers screw them up. They use cheap **** in them to save money and the result is the tweeters cutting out on you time you try to raise the volume. Any speaker that can't play loud without cutting out and distorting is trash to me no matter how good they sound.
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  • cam5860
    cam5860 Posts: 632
    edited December 2007
    Here is a pic of the new DB subs coming out soon.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited December 2007
    cam5860 wrote: »
    Any company that is worth a damn can design one to do both. Have good sound quality and get loud without sounding like ****. Anybody on this forum that thinks DB subs are good is stupid. They are like any other sub with a small xmax. They sound like **** when you turn them up. Damn cone popping, distorting, etc.... Anybody can design a sub to sound good with the volume level at 15 out of 30.

    Thats just like the DB series components. Yeah they sound decent for the money but the passive crossovers screw them up. They use cheap **** in them to save money and the result is the tweeters cutting out on you time you try to raise the volume. Any speaker that can't play loud without cutting out and distorting is trash to me no matter how good they sound.

    Ahh...one with little experience, let me explain to you the ways of the world.

    Have you heard the DB loaded box? Those things get plenty loud for what they are, a budget minded sub.

    Cone popping and distortion are NOT products of a bad sub, they are products of a **** installer, nothing more, nothing less.

    In fact, not all companies can design a sub that sounds good on level 15 out of 30, take Pyle for example.

    They use cheap **** in passive crossovers for budget minded speakers?!?! Say it isnt so!:rolleyes:

    Fact of the matter is, Ive put 3 RF T6002s on 3 sets Polk DB 6.5 components and NEVER had one cut out on me. The amps were gained with a multimeter to put out 175wrms at 3/4 volume on the radio to ensure that the speakers would reach their limit before the radio sent a clipped signal to the amplifiers.

    I would check the install before I cried wolf.
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
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  • cam5860
    cam5860 Posts: 632
    edited December 2007
    Yes ive heard the db box at circuit city. It sounds good for what it's worth nothing more nothing less. Cone popping and distortion is a sorry product when you have it in a .66 cubic box and 250 rms watts on it and you can't get no volume out of it without bottoming out. I ain't no rookie cuz. I know how to install. The tweeters on the DB component can't handle the power. I could turn the volume up to 26 out of 35 and the tweeter protection would trip on the ****. I won't ever own anything else DB you can believe that. I have JBL components on the same setup and they can handle everything I throw at them without distorting or cutting out. So I know it's a sorry product and not my install.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited December 2007
    You heard the box at Circuit City therefore you know what it sounds like?

    Interesting.
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
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  • cam5860
    cam5860 Posts: 632
    edited December 2007
    yes it sounds good in that box. But put them in a sealed box and you will see what I'm talking about.
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  • cam5860
    cam5860 Posts: 632
    edited December 2007
    By the way what brands are yall pushing at your car audio shop right now?
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited December 2007
    The difference between hearing a box in a store and hearing it in a car is substantial.

    We carry Pioneer, RF, Kenwood, DB Drive, Clarion, MTX, Ample, Memphis, and Kicker.
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
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  • cam5860
    cam5860 Posts: 632
    edited December 2007
    Hey cody whats going on with pioneer these days? From what I'm understanding they are cutting off most of the small dealers. They are saying they don't sell enough gear a year to meet there standards.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited December 2007
    We have several stores so we sell a lot of pioneer so we havent had any problems, havent heard much about other stores.

    I do know, the markup on their lower models is not much and we sell them below our markup percentage.
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited December 2007
    Heavy Metal and SQ do not go together......



    :)







    :p
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
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  • JoshParsons84
    JoshParsons84 Posts: 565
    edited December 2007
    1996blackmax wrote: »
    Heavy Metal and SQ do not go together......



    :)







    :p


    Why would you say that? That's the kind of music I listen to. Nothing else. I don't like crap, or pop or country. The only kind of music I listen to Rock & Roll, period. I like more of today's Metal. But then again I like Rock from the 70's also. It's all good to me as long as it's Rock & Roll.
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  • black magic
    black magic Posts: 669
    edited December 2007
    have you looked into any Audison amps? They provide some good, clean power... kind of pricey, though.
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    polkaudio FTW!
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  • bobobob
    bobobob Posts: 24
    edited December 2007
    No didn't look into audison amps, yet. I also have to ship the amps from the US to the netherlands, so i think i'm looking in about the $200/250 price range, ex shipping.
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  • eloplayspolo
    eloplayspolo Posts: 1,117
    edited December 2007
    great amps great deals...
    http://www.amazon.com/Kenwood-Excelon-KAC-X40-4-channel-amplifier/dp/B000O570B8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1197394503&sr=1-2
    http://www.amazon.com/Kenwood-Excelon-KAC-X10D-subwoofer-amplifier/dp/B000O52RES/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1197394503&sr=1-3
    http://www.amazon.com/JL-Audio-12W3v2-D2-2-ohm-Subwoofers/dp/B000178NCE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1197394973&sr=1-2
    2013 Toyota Prius
    Audible Physics 3 Way: H6MB, AR3-A, AR2.0
    Image Dynamics iDMax 12" D2v4
    (2) Alpine PDX-V9 Bridged, Alpine PDX-M12 (500w Mid-Bass, 200w Mid, 200w Tweet, 1200w Sub)
    Mosconi 6to8 v8
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  • bobobob
    bobobob Posts: 24
    edited December 2007
    ok thanks, i've already made a decision on the subwoofer, gonna be a 8" Soundsplinter.

    anyone familiar with these amps: http://www.earthquakesound.com/tnt.htm

    and especcially the T2000W/4 model?
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited December 2007
    JoshParsons84 wrote: »
    Why would you say that? That's the kind of music I listen to. Nothing else. I don't like crap, or pop or country. The only kind of music I listen to Rock & Roll, period. I like more of today's Metal. But then again I like Rock from the 70's also. It's all good to me as long as it's Rock & Roll.


    It's not really my cup of tea.....and just giving you a little bit of a hard time ;).
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
    KnuKonceptz
    Second Skin
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited December 2007
    bobobob wrote: »
    ok thanks, i've already made a decision on the subwoofer, gonna be a 8" Soundsplinter.

    anyone familiar with these amps: http://www.earthquakesound.com/tnt.htm

    and especcially the T2000W/4 model?


    Good choice in the sub :cool:.
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
    KnuKonceptz
    Second Skin
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited December 2007
    Yeah, Max works for them. He could use the commission.


    :D
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited December 2007
    ummmhhhh....kind sir, have you lost your ability to read sigs :D. Not one item in my car is from them......at least not at the moment ;).
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
    KnuKonceptz
    Second Skin
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited December 2007
    I guess I am now fanboy x2....Alpine and JL :D
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
    KnuKonceptz
    Second Skin
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited December 2007
    Holy smokes! You completely revamped your gear. I hadnt even noticed.

    Still using those panzy Rainbow speakers tho I see.

    :p
    polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
    MECA SQ Rookie of the Year 06 ~ MECA State Champ 06,07,08,11 ~ MECA World Finals 2nd place 06,07,08,09
    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited December 2007
    You got it :)


    I may go a little higher up the line next ;).
    Alpine: CDA-7949
    Alpine: PXA-H600
    Alpine: CHA-S624, KCA-420i, KCA-410C
    Rainbow: CS 265 Profi Phase Plug / SL 165
    ARC Audio: 4150-XXK / 1500v1-XXK
    JL Audio: 10W6v2 (x2)
    KnuKonceptz
    Second Skin
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  • bobobob
    bobobob Posts: 24
    edited December 2007
    1996blackmax wrote: »
    Good choice in the sub :cool:.

    Thanks, just have to wait until they're back in stock.

    Looking into sundown amps right now...
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