Comparing the LSI series with Rockets and Axioms
I was intending to purchase Polk LSi 15's from http://acousticsounddesign.com/ but i called to place the order for them and the first availability is 3 weeks.
Now since i have some time, i am loking for opinions on other brands..
What do you guys think of the Rocket RS450 it also has a Vifa tweeter sells for 900, but no low-end.
http://www.av123.com/products_product.php?section=speakers&product=90.1
Also what are your opinions on Axiom Floor standers either M60 or M80.
http://www.axiomaudio.com/m80ti_main.html
Now since i have some time, i am loking for opinions on other brands..
What do you guys think of the Rocket RS450 it also has a Vifa tweeter sells for 900, but no low-end.
http://www.av123.com/products_product.php?section=speakers&product=90.1
Also what are your opinions on Axiom Floor standers either M60 or M80.
http://www.axiomaudio.com/m80ti_main.html
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Polk LSI15,LSiC, LsiFX, SVS PB-12 Plus/2, Blue Jean Cables,Onkyo Pro PR-SC885P, Earthquake Cin
Polk LSI15,LSiC, LsiFX, SVS PB-12 Plus/2, Blue Jean Cables,Onkyo Pro PR-SC885P, Earthquake Cin
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I wouldnt even consider the Axiom line up.
They freaking build their stuff out of cardboard practically. Cheap materials, cheap finishes, cheap drivers. More so compared to the RT series than the LSi series.
Sadly though, if I were to buy a pair of speakers right now between the LSi and Onix - It would most likely be Onix. Sorry Polk.
PS: The LSi series is excellent - but I just like the way the Onix line up looks. Haha. *sigh*- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
I can't speak for the M60 or M80, but I happen to like the QS8's for my surrounds. Sound is great for me with decent power to them. Didn't notice the cardboard.
Good luck in your search. -
John K. loves Axiom, that's all you need to know that they suck.
3 weeks will pass quickly.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
hey just a little tid bit with acoustic sound design, they have no serial numbers obviously on the back, i have purchased 2 sets of speakers from them and they are perfect minus the serial number. i believe if you make one order with them, you can receiver 20% off the next one. you should inquire about that. you could purchase a center and sell it back on ebay for a similar price and use the discount on your towers if you do end up going the lsi route.
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i think that deal is only on ebay i think so see what their price is on ebay, same products.
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Yeah, hold out for three weeks and order the Polks.HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50 LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub
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3 weeks is worth the wait for the LSi's, trust me
I dont even have the remote notion of upgrading the LSi's in my hteater, especially when I see how much I would have to spend for what some would call a significant improvement (Von Scheikert?....Martin Logan....eeeesh, I have a mortgage dude!!!)
Living Room 2 Channel -
Schiit SYS Passive Pre. Jolida CD player. Songbird streamer. California Audio Labs Sigma II DAC, DIY 300as1/a1 Ice modules Class D amp. LSi15 with MM842 woofer upgrade, Nordost Blue Heaven and Unity interconnects.
Upstairs 2 Channel Rig -
Prometheus Ref. TVC passive pre, SAE A-205 Amp, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E50 DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Von Schweikert VR3.5 speakers.
Studio Rig - Scarlett 18i20(Gen3) DAW, Mac Mini, Aiyma A07 Max (BridgedX2), Totem Mites -
3 weeks to wait is a no brainer for the Lsi's. There isn't a speaker out there that I can think of that is better than the Lsi's in its price range. You'd have to spend a lot more to surpass their ultimate performance and then you are just moving up the ladder incrementally.
Patience Grasshopper.......patience
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
Three weeks is nothing. Just spend that time buying new CDs to listen to.
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3 weeks is still a decent amount of time.
No hurt in checking out other brands and listening and chilling...
Buddy of mine at work, didnt realize they were into HT stuff as well.
He has a full B&W 600 S3 set at his place.
DM604 S3 2x Fronts retail for 1400 a pair
LCR60
DM602.5 2x Rears
Going to listem to the 604's and try and compare them to the LSi's.
What is the Polkie consensus on the B&W's?
I also requested auditions to Axioms and the Rockets.
Every where i have read, axioms are constructed inadequately...Click here To see My system
Polk LSI15,LSiC, LsiFX, SVS PB-12 Plus/2, Blue Jean Cables,Onkyo Pro PR-SC885P, Earthquake Cin -
F1nut wrote:John K. loves Axiom, that's all you need to know that they suck.
3 weeks will pass quickly.
Gawd,,I love this place JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut) -
No harm in looking around and comparing. Just a note of caution when comparing, make sure it's a fair comparison. Listening to other people's equipment in their environment and then listening to other equipment in another environment isn't a good way to do it. So many times LSi's are misrepresented in a dealer showroom or are run by inadequate electronics. This can happen with other brands as well.
I've heard some rumblings from people I know who thought the LSi's were just ordinary until they heard mine properly set-up with proper electronics. I used to be in that camp especially after hearing anything in the dealer showroom.
IMO, LSi's should not be in the same sentence as Rockets or Axiom, they are that much better. As far as B & W you either like 'em alot or hate 'em alot. The last pair I listened to just didn't do it for me. Very forward and had a sucked out midrange.(can't remember the model but it was awhile ago). Keep in mind this was in the showroom so not the best environment as noted above.
Have fun"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
mwaarna wrote:I was intending to purchase Polk LSi 15's from http://acousticsounddesign.com/ but i called to place the order for them and the first availability is 3 weeks.
Now since i have some time, i am loking for opinions on other brands..
What do you guys think of the Rocket RS450 it also has a Vifa tweeter sells for 900, but no low-end.
http://www.av123.com/products_product.php?section=speakers&product=90.1
Also what are your opinions on Axiom Floor standers either M60 or M80.
http://www.axiomaudio.com/m80ti_main.html
Completely off topic, but I got hung up on your screen name. Mary Jane lover? It really sounds that way... m wa ar na?!? Brilliant!
But I digress.
Now back to you're regular scheduled programming...Honoured to be, an original SOPA founding member
Stuff...
RTi12's - front
CSi5 - center
FXi3's - surrounds
RTi4's - surrounds
SVS PB12-NSD/2 - sub
Denon 3805
Rotel RB-985 5-Channel Amplifier -
MrNightly wrote:Completely off topic, but I got hung up on your screen name. Mary Jane lover? It really sounds that way... m wa ar na?!? Brilliant!
But I digress.
Now back to you're regular scheduled programming...
Your about the 5th person in the last year to mention that.
If you thought my screen name of mwaarna was hilariously close to MJ...
My name is Matti Waarna, and people butcher it and it sounds like Mary Jane if you say it all bunched up and fast.
Haha.. Its great in the professional world.Click here To see My system
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And I was going to go to my grave believing that only parents magazines used the phrase Mary Jane as a descriptor......
MichaelMains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms) -
Out of curiosity, why are you buying it from there? Why not grab a pair off of Crutchfield and have it shipped out today? I'd think that be the best bet IMO. No waiting around to contemplate how to purchase inferior speakers
Lovin that music year after year.
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Promitheus Audio TVC SE,
Rotel RB-980BX,
OPPO DV-970HD,
Lite Audio DAC AH,
IXOS XHA305 Interconnects
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Polk SDA CRS+,
Creek Audio 5350 SE,
Morrow Audio MA1 Interconnect,
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Acoustic Sound Design is not an authorized dealer, so they can sell below the Polk set price. Long story short - $450 more to purchase from crutchfield.Refefer wrote:Out of curiosity, why are you buying it from there? Why not grab a pair off of Crutchfield and have it shipped out today? I'd think that be the best bet IMO. No waiting around to contemplate how to purchase inferior speakers
MichaelMains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms) -
Refefer wrote:Out of curiosity, why are you buying it from there? Why not grab a pair off of Crutchfield and have it shipped out today? I'd think that be the best bet IMO. No waiting around to contemplate how to purchase inferior speakers
Mainly Due to price. This is my Fist HT. Price from Acoustic was under 1200 shipped, where as Crutchfield is 1500....
and yes 300 bucks gets me original Manf. warranty, but Acoustic offers their own warranty that matches Polks...Click here To see My system
Polk LSI15,LSiC, LsiFX, SVS PB-12 Plus/2, Blue Jean Cables,Onkyo Pro PR-SC885P, Earthquake Cin -
and yes 300 bucks gets me original Manf. warranty, but Acoustic offers their own warranty that matches Polks...
If you believe that one, I've got a bridge to sell ya along with some B&W's.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
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F1nut wrote:If you believe that one, I've got a bridge to sell ya along with some B&W's.
I was thinking the same thing.
As far as my opinion between the LSi and the Rockets (no opinion of Axioms), I have heard that both have very pleasing sounds to their owners. I have also been very impressed with the Rocket forums and the developers participation in that same forum. Like Polk members here, the rocket owners get very excited about any new upgrades or announcements about their systems. That says alot about a speaker when you have that kind of loyalty, customer support, and excitement about the product.
I think you will be happy with either.Holydoc (Home Theatre Lover)
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Onkyo -TX-NR901 Receiver
Oppo -Oppo 980HD Universal DVD Player
Outlaw -770 (7x200watt) Amplifier
PolkAudio - RTi12 (Left and Right)
PolkAudio - CSi5 (Center)
PolkAudio - FXi3 (Back and Surround)
SVS - PB-12/Plus (Subwoofer)
Bluejean Cables - Interconnects
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So i've been thinking...
This is my first Venture into HT, and i know that i will catch the upgrade bug eventually, why not just start off small...
So i have been thinking of getting a used pair of LSi9's and some nice looking stands, and then i could get my Sub alot faster than i would have normally been able to get.
I can most likely pick up a used set for LSi9's for 500ish and a decent stand for 150ish which would be about half price of the LSI15's.....
Only thing is, if i get the 9's i would almost immediately after have to get a good Sub, but the money i would save over the 15's i dont see that being a problem.Click here To see My system
Polk LSI15,LSiC, LsiFX, SVS PB-12 Plus/2, Blue Jean Cables,Onkyo Pro PR-SC885P, Earthquake Cin -
Looks like you got it figured out. On sub's, go for an SVS sub.58" Samsung Plasma (on wall)(calibrated)
LSi15's front (modded xo's)
LSic center
LSiFX's sides
LSi7's rears
Sunfire Sig. 600 amp for 15's
Sunfire Sig. Cinema for C,S&R
Sony ES 3000 pre/pro
SVS 2039 PC Plus sub 12.3 (16hz tune)
PS3
Wii
Signal and Audioquest ic's
12 awg monster speaker-cable (bi-wired)
Belkin PF60 power conditioner
Monster power conditioner for sub -
Just before i make offers on Audiogon..
How much do LSi9's typically go for used and shipped?
Cause they are asking for about 500, what is an offer i could make them without having them totally ignore me.
On the sub portion i've been doing research as well.
The #1 contender currently is the HSU VTF-3 HO. Subs are alot easier to research and find out which ones are the best vs speakers..
Depends on on how good the reviews for the new SVS Ultra and the price difference, but more than likely i will order the HSUClick here To see My system
Polk LSI15,LSiC, LsiFX, SVS PB-12 Plus/2, Blue Jean Cables,Onkyo Pro PR-SC885P, Earthquake Cin -
You're not going to find much better than $500.I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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I take that back...
http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?spkrmoni&1173826657
Looks like there are three people selling 'em, so nows the time to jump. To be honest with you, all three prices are the lowest I've ever seen. Try to get one of them to throw in shipping and you've got a stellar deal.I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore -
I contacted both of the sellers of LSi9's on Audiogon to see if the are still available..
Lets see what happens.Click here To see My system
Polk LSI15,LSiC, LsiFX, SVS PB-12 Plus/2, Blue Jean Cables,Onkyo Pro PR-SC885P, Earthquake Cin -
Check out this one:
http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?spkrfull&1173834309
great price, and upgraded caps. I would love to hear what it does to the sound.
Just a FYI, no affil.I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie. -
polkatese wrote:Check out this one:
http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?spkrfull&1173834309
great price, and upgraded caps. I would love to hear what it does to the sound.
Just a FYI, no affil.
I looked at those...
Zero reputation, plus he states no shipping... IDk, i would be very very weary about having those shipped with either UPS or Fedex.... If they were in florida i would totally consider it.
Also now that i am looking at LSi9's....
What do you guys recommend for stands, i would like them to be nice looking, which was one of the reasons i was leaning towards the LSi15s instead of the 9's.Click here To see My system
Polk LSI15,LSiC, LsiFX, SVS PB-12 Plus/2, Blue Jean Cables,Onkyo Pro PR-SC885P, Earthquake Cin -
I use Sanus Steel Foundation series. solid and looks good.I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
