The SVS PB13 Ultra...

VR3
VR3 Posts: 28,644
edited January 2007 in Subwoofer Hookup & Bass Management
Looks to be a downright...amazing subwoofer.

I think that has SID stamped all over it... a pair of them at that... holy crap...

125 pounds, 16hz... 2.5 that of the original Ultra. God almighty.
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited January 2007
    It does look amazing. I hope its affordable.

    Jake
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited January 2007
    You and me both.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited January 2007
    What a monster.........
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  • ESavinon
    ESavinon Posts: 3,066
    edited January 2007
    HTrookie wrote:
    What a monster.........
    That's what my girlfriend said :D :cool: :D .
    SRT For Life; SDA Forever!

    The SRT SEISMIC System:
    Four main satellite speakers, six powered subs, two dedicated for LFE channel, two center speakers for over/under screen placement and three Control Centers. Amaze your friends, terrorize your neighbors, seize the audio bragging rights for your state. Go ahead, buy it; you only go around once.
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited January 2007
    Was she looking through a microscope at the time ?
    Rick
    HT+ Sunfire TG IV, Dual CG Sig II's, CinePro 1K2, Oppo 981, Audio Technica PL120, Polk SRT's & F/X1000's, Samsung 71" DLP
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  • ESavinon
    ESavinon Posts: 3,066
    edited January 2007
    Get your mind off the gutter.
    She said that after seeing my srt subs.
    SRT For Life; SDA Forever!

    The SRT SEISMIC System:
    Four main satellite speakers, six powered subs, two dedicated for LFE channel, two center speakers for over/under screen placement and three Control Centers. Amaze your friends, terrorize your neighbors, seize the audio bragging rights for your state. Go ahead, buy it; you only go around once.
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited January 2007
    I'm guessing $17 -1800 delivered for premium finish.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • jm1
    jm1 Posts: 618
    edited January 2007
    jakelm wrote:
    It does look amazing. I hope its affordable.

    Jake
    I believe the initial guess is between 30% to 40% more than the current model. The PCU should be about 1500 to 1600.
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited January 2007
    fantastic!
    Never Forget
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited January 2007
    16 hz +/- 3db? Damn!!!!

    Has the curved shape of the mirage s12 I own, but the mirage aint rockin a 950 watt Bash amp, three vents, and/or 125 lbs of muscle.
    Stereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
    Bedroom: Samsung HPR-4252, Toshiba HD-A2, HK 3480, Signal Cable, AQ speaker cable, Totem Dreamcatchers, SVS PB10-NSD, URC MX-850
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  • Schwingding
    Schwingding Posts: 363
    edited January 2007
    I'm looking forward to the /2. Somehow I think I'll have a pair of sweet subs for sale shortly thereafter.
    HT/music rig
    Panasonic PX60U 50" plasma
    Yamaha 5990 AVR
    Onix SP3 tube amp
    bunch of Outlaw 2200 monoblocks
    DUAL SVS PB12+/2 subs :eek:
    Denon 3910 DVD/SACD/DVD-A
    DirecTV HR10-250 DVR
    Onix Strata Mini mains
    Mirage OM10 surrounds
    Polk CSi5 center
    Polk SC80 rear surrounds
    Samsung BDP1000 blu-ray player

    Bedroom rig
    Jolida SJ302a tube amp
    Denon 2910 universal player
    Onix Ref 1 monitors
    Velodyne minivee
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited January 2007
    not a small cabinet, but certainly not ridiculously huge. thats a lot of bass in a relativly smaller cabinet.

    front firing too, veddy interesting!!!!

    the ultra driver another 1 1/2" wide? eeeeeeeeeeesh!!!
    Living Room 2 Channel -
    Schiit SYS Passive Pre. Jolida CD player. Songbird streamer. California Audio Labs Sigma II DAC, DIY 300as1/a1 Ice modules Class D amp. LSi15 with MM842 woofer upgrade, Nordost Blue Heaven and Unity interconnects.

    Upstairs 2 Channel Rig -
    Prometheus Ref. TVC passive pre, SAE A-205 Amp, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E50 DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Von Schweikert VR3.5 speakers.

    Studio Rig - Scarlett 18i20(Gen3) DAW, Mac Mini, Aiyma A07 Max (BridgedX2), Totem Mites
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited January 2007
    Just called SVS and they said the following is a very tenative target, but this is what they are shooting for.

    Available in the april-may of this year timeframe. Pricepoint they are trying to hit is in the $1500ish range.

    Once again nothing set in stone, but those are at least their current targets.

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited January 2007
    Sounds like a very realistic price for such a powerful sub. $1500 aint too bad. I'm sure I'll be picking up a used one from the FM in about 6 years.
    Stereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
    Bedroom: Samsung HPR-4252, Toshiba HD-A2, HK 3480, Signal Cable, AQ speaker cable, Totem Dreamcatchers, SVS PB10-NSD, URC MX-850
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited January 2007
    1500 is alot for one sub, I want to do right and left subs too...

    Dang, I guess Ill stick to the PB12+
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited January 2007
    Those ****!:eek: :D
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited January 2007
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote:
    1500 is alot for one sub, I want to do right and left subs too...

    Dang, I guess Ill stick to the PB12+

    dude, you will NOT need 2 of those subs, unless your trying to fill an amphitheater with bass, CMON :D..LOL
    Living Room 2 Channel -
    Schiit SYS Passive Pre. Jolida CD player. Songbird streamer. California Audio Labs Sigma II DAC, DIY 300as1/a1 Ice modules Class D amp. LSi15 with MM842 woofer upgrade, Nordost Blue Heaven and Unity interconnects.

    Upstairs 2 Channel Rig -
    Prometheus Ref. TVC passive pre, SAE A-205 Amp, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E50 DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Von Schweikert VR3.5 speakers.

    Studio Rig - Scarlett 18i20(Gen3) DAW, Mac Mini, Aiyma A07 Max (BridgedX2), Totem Mites
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited January 2007
    No...

    I want right and left subwoofers...

    Im looking at tight, accurate musical needs vs. HT -

    Whether you want to admit it or not, bass is directional in ways...

    I just want "stereo" subs
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • jm1
    jm1 Posts: 618
    edited January 2007
    Vr3MxStyler2k3,

    If you are planning on using stereo subs in the future, I am curious to know why you are purchasing floorstanding (Taylo 7u) speakers.

    Wouldn't the Reference Monitor be a better choice? The price difference could allow you to purchase one sub now or in the near future. Place the sub somewhere between the two monitors. I would place the sub built-in line level crossover between the preamp and amp. Calibrate as required. You now have a very capable low end mated with very capable monitors.

    Additionally, if you are happy with the sonic characteristics of your current amp, there would be no reason to replace this as most of the musical energy is now produced by the sub, relieving the amp of this duty. If you require further refinement, upgrade to an amp with improved sonic characteristics.

    In the future, you could add an external active crossover and/or an additional matching sub.

    Anyways, just some thoughts on your future direction.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited January 2007
    Hey Jm1,
    Ive owned many monitors (currently have a pair in my position actually) -- and there is one constant with every pair Ive heard. Regardless of price and quality - they just dont capture the music for me. They lack the overall dynamics, prescence that I desire for music.

    With that said, I have heard very few floorstanding speakers I did not like. Atleast not for the reasons I mentioned above...

    And lets put this in the perspective of I did not like Wilson's Cub monitor set, at like 30,000. To me, just something about the design that just lacks the overall depth, dynamics, and prescence - just dosnt capture it for me.

    Along those lines, I also believe in crossing my mains very low, as I don't believe a large driver can fully capture the upper octaves of the bass region. I think a sub should only do about 50hz and below (if not lower)...

    The way I figure it, Im spending ALOT of money on my current gear, but Ive already bought this gear about 3 times over the past few years. So basically I am getting exactly what I want, power, towers, subs, preamp, cdp - the color, new, used, w/e it takes.

    To me, it is the combination I need to truly be where I want to be in this hobby. Unlimited amounts of clarity and dynamics...

    PS: Space is a big issue with sub placement with me, no way I can pull off a center position of subs.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • jm1
    jm1 Posts: 618
    edited January 2007
    Thought I would ask even though I have followed your progress.

    The component I found which finally allowed the music to flow within my system was upgrading the preamp. At the time, I had:

    Pioneer DVD player as transport
    Museatex Dac
    Rotel 980 preamp
    Simuadio amp
    dbx active crossover (80 Hz crossover)
    Dynaudio Contour S1.4 monitors
    two SVS PCU subs (the subs are excellent to and beyond 80Hz)

    I thought the sound was quite good and wouldn’t have given it another thought. But one day after searching, I saw a used preamp. The Rotel was removed from the system and replaced with a Simaudio preamp. The difference was startling and completely unexpected.

    I have since upgraded to the Dynaudio Confidence C1 monitors. This was another remarkable upgrade allowing me to rediscover the music. Its too bad the Positive Feedback review of these speakers is a pile of verbal diarrhea.

    The system is complete with the above two changes.

    I am wondering if the new Ultra drivers give any further sonic refinement over the current Ultra drivers. That would be the only reason I swap the current PCUs for new PCUs.

    Explore all options before making any final judgments on what you think is the correct path to where you want to go. I was blindsided by the preamp upgrade and still have a huge grin on my face thinking what I could have been missing.

    Regards.
    All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed and third, it is accepted as self evident.
    Arthur Schopenhauer
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