2 Channel Amps?

TennesseeOutlaw
TennesseeOutlaw Posts: 414
edited January 2007 in Electronics
Ok, if I were to stray from what Ive kinda already decided on (Outlaw Audio), what 2 Channel amps does everyone recommend? I want at least 300 Wpc @4 Ohms. I may also get a 5 channel amp with the same power output, so if you have any recommendations send those as well.

Thanks,

Josh
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited January 2007
    Price Range ?
    Rick
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  • TennesseeOutlaw
    TennesseeOutlaw Posts: 414
    edited January 2007
    TennesseeOutlaw wrote:
    Ok, if I were to stray from what Ive kinda already decided on (Outlaw Audio), what 2 Channel amps does everyone recommend? I want at least 300 Wpc @4 Ohms. I may also get a 5 channel amp with the same power output, so if you have any recommendations send those as well.

    Thanks,

    Josh


    Sorry... A lil more info.. Im looking to spend no more that 2300 for it, and I want brand new if at all possible.
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited January 2007
    TennesseeOutlaw wrote:
    Sorry... A lil more info.. Im looking to spend no more that 2300 for it, and I want brand new if at all possible.
    amps like most things take a huge nose dive after they have been opened up. if your stuck on new i guess thats that. but i will never buy new again myself. i can get so much more for if i buy like new condition amps pre speakers etc. for 2300.00 you can get one hell of a nice used amp. lots better than the outlaw. REGARDS SNOW:)
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited January 2007
    Bryston 2B SST or 3B SST.
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  • TennesseeOutlaw
    TennesseeOutlaw Posts: 414
    edited January 2007
    Ok.. That being said, do you have any name brands? models? Other than your run of the mill audio brands, I dont know about very many products..
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  • TennesseeOutlaw
    TennesseeOutlaw Posts: 414
    edited January 2007
    Ill check those out.. Thanks..
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited January 2007
    here is a few names to check. anthem. classe. adcom.some very nice amps can be had on ebay or audigon for 2300.00 or less in the 2 channel class with these names. here is a classe 5 channel 180wpc at 8 0hms 360wpc into 4 ohms amp i think this would suit most peoples needs for a very long time. http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampsmult&1173848878 REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,800
    edited January 2007
    I think youd have a hard time beating the Khartago from Odyssey...

    Dont pay much mind to power ratings... Id put my 115 watts to alot of guys 250+ watts... ;)
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    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited January 2007
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote:
    I think youd have a hard time beating the Khartago from Odyssey...

    Dont pay much mind to power ratings... Id put my 115 watts to alot of guys 250+ watts... ;)[/QUOTEOr the STRATOS EXTREME
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited January 2007
    TennesseeOutlaw wrote:
    Ill check those out.. Thanks..
    here is the link
    http://www.bryston.ca/ampsel.html
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited January 2007
    Anthem P2..I have been looking at that and the P5.
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  • TennesseeOutlaw
    TennesseeOutlaw Posts: 414
    edited January 2007
    GV#27 wrote:
    here is the link
    http://www.bryston.ca/ampsel.html

    I like that 4b. Seems to be about what I want. Know of a price on that unit? I couldnt find one anywhere.:rolleyes:
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  • Midnite Mick
    Midnite Mick Posts: 1,591
    edited January 2007
    He could wait for you to buy the Anthem (those are monsters) and pick up your Earthquake...have some money left over as well.

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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited January 2007
    snow wrote:
    amps like most things take a huge nose dive after they have been opened up. if your stuck on new i guess thats that. but i will never buy new again myself. i can get so much more for if i buy like new condition amps pre speakers etc. for 2300.00 you can get one hell of a nice used amp. lots better than the outlaw. REGARDS SNOW:)
    In total agreement here as well. When the 2CH rig gets fully assembled the Cary amp will be used. People who own high end gear (and other things as well) usually take care of them.
    Michael ;)
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  • TennesseeOutlaw
    TennesseeOutlaw Posts: 414
    edited January 2007
    Yeah, Im not totally against buying a used product, but I do like the feeling of having a warranty just in case... Seems like I always end up on the bad side of any deal..
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited January 2007
    check out Sunfire amps.. they are big beefy and powerful.
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  • TennesseeOutlaw
    TennesseeOutlaw Posts: 414
    edited January 2007
    danger boy wrote:
    check out Sunfire amps.. they are big beefy and powerful.

    Thanks.. I will give them a look see..
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  • TennesseeOutlaw
    TennesseeOutlaw Posts: 414
    edited January 2007
    Would be nice if some of these pages had some damn prices on them!! Every amp that has been suggested has looked nice and fits exactly what I'm looking for; however, none of them have a price!
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited January 2007
    TennesseeOutlaw wrote:
    Would be nice if some of these pages had some damn prices on them!! Every amp that has been suggested has looked nice and fits exactly what I'm looking for; however, none of them have a price!

    well if they did have the price listed it would MFSR and not exactly real world which would be less of course.

    Once you find the amp you like.. go online and check for authorized dealers in your area. I highly doubt places like Best Buy and Circuit City will be where you will be looking. :p

    check here too.. they have the prices listed at least. http://www.onecall.com/ProductSearch.aspx?N=255&Ne=7&menu=true
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  • Refefer
    Refefer Posts: 1,280
    edited January 2007
    TennesseeOutlaw wrote:
    Would be nice if some of these pages had some damn prices on them!! Every amp that has been suggested has looked nice and fits exactly what I'm looking for; however, none of them have a price!

    The main reason is because, at the price you're looking at, these are sold almost exclusively through physical dealers. You're at a lucky price range, I gotta tell you.

    I would seriously think of buying a used Classe or Ayre product.

    I would shoot a PM to the owner of this Ayre V-5x amplifier and ask if he'll take $2300 plush S/H... this is one helluva a monster amp. I don't think you can honestly get a better value for your money in this case, since it retails for normally for 4 grand.

    http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1171573720

    As was previously stated, high end owners of audio don't screw around with their gear. This is no beat up Sony.
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited January 2007
    Talk to okiepolkie- he does bryston. If he can't hook you up with a 4b in your budegt, don't hesitate to buy used- the 20 year warranty is fully transferable if it was bought from an authorized seller on the first sale, or the date code is before the begining of 2006.

    I've got a 4b sst and love it.

    BTW: MSRP on the bryston is a little over $3k, dealer cost is around $2100, i think.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,813
    edited January 2007
    This is for HT use, right?
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  • TennesseeOutlaw
    TennesseeOutlaw Posts: 414
    edited January 2007
    F1nut wrote:
    This is for HT use, right?

    Yes.. But it is for music as well. Id say as close to 50/50 as one could get..
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,020
    edited January 2007
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  • TennesseeOutlaw
    TennesseeOutlaw Posts: 414
    edited January 2007
    unc2701 wrote:
    Talk to okiepolkie- he does bryston. If he can't hook you up with a 4b in your budegt, don't hesitate to buy used- the 20 year warranty is fully transferable if it was bought from an authorized seller on the first sale, or the date code is before the begining of 2006.

    I've got a 4b sst and love it.

    BTW: MSRP on the bryston is a little over $3k, dealer cost is around $2100, i think.

    Is he an authorized dealer?? Or just someone with some Bryston's to sell? I will PM him today.. Thanks..
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  • TennesseeOutlaw
    TennesseeOutlaw Posts: 414
    edited January 2007
    wingnut4772 wrote:
    Anthem P2..I have been looking at that and the P5.

    Thanks... Did a little research today..
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited January 2007
    TennesseeOutlaw wrote:
    Yeah, Im not totally against buying a used product, but I do like the feeling of having a warranty just in case... Seems like I always end up on the bad side of any deal..
    Someone already mentioned Sunfire which I will second ...

    Used 5-7 channel 200 wpc @ 8 ohm CG's can be found on eBay or aGon/vGon for ~$1000.

    Used 5-7 channel 400+ wpc @ 8 ohm CG Signature's can be found for roughly twice that.

    Those prices are 1/3 to 1/2 of what you'd pay for new.

    If you looked at the ones I have you wouldn't be able to tell they didn't come home from some store yesterday.

    You can get more info at Sunfire's site or by following the link from my sig below for the signature amp.

    With regards to having a warranty ... Sunfire gives an original, not really transferable 5 year warranty. But how they deal with owners is if you are not the original owner they will add 6 months onto how old they know the amp is from the serial number and then treat you accordingly ... I had a problem with one of my amps that I bought used and they repaired it and shipped it back to me for nothing. All I paid for was the shipping to get it to them.

    All manufactures may not be this generous ... But most are more interested in their gear working they then are in sockin it to you for repairs ...
    Rick
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited January 2007
    TennesseeOutlaw wrote:
    Is he an authorized dealer?? Or just someone with some Bryston's to sell? I will PM him today.. Thanks..


    He's authorized and highly recommended. I've done several thousand worth of purchases from him.

    Another plus for bryston- they're engineered to push well over their advertised specs. If sony were promoting the 4b they'd call it "600 watts"
    Gallo Ref 3.1 : Bryston 4b SST : Musical fidelity CD Pre : VPI HW-19
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  • TennesseeOutlaw
    TennesseeOutlaw Posts: 414
    edited January 2007
    Thanks a bunch UNC... I will PM him today! How's NC these days?? Havent been down that way since I was in HS, and we went for Spring Break down there..
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  • TN_Polk_Lover
    TN_Polk_Lover Posts: 243
    edited January 2007
    Hey guys, I haven't posted here in a long time. My question is closely related to the one in this thread, so I thought I'd just piggyback this question into this thread.

    For Christmas, I bought myself a Denon 3806 AV Receiver which I am still playing around with trying to figure out all the settings on. I decided to use the pre-amp out to drive my RTi70s front main speakers through a Yamaha MX600U amp which I've had for a while. I'll use the Denon 3806 to drive my center channel, CSi30, and rear surrounds Fxi30s? I think (I bought them used off of ebay and don't remember now for sure if they are 30s or 50s.)

    Anyway, I had planned to use the Yammie amp to drive a new pair of Polk in ceiling speakers that I plan to put in my bedroom ceiling. So, I'm thinking about buying another power amp to replace the Yammie to drive the front mains. I have no problem buying used. I've bought several things used off of ebay, and so far have not had any problems.

    I want to be sure that the new amp will drive LSi115's which is what I'd like to eventually get. So I know that the amp will have to be able to drive a 4 ohm load. I guess that I'm looking for something in the range of 200 wpc into 8 ohms.

    Suggestions? There are always used Adcoms out there and I've recently been insterested in Parasound because AudioAdvisor sells them, but I haven't heard anyone here mention Parasound. Thanks.
    Robert
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