voltage stabalizer?

higgins79
higgins79 Posts: 72
edited January 2007 in Electronics
My system seems to be running at 110 volts all the time and it is my understanding that you want 120 volts. So is investing a couple hundred dollars in a voltage stabalizer going to make a worth while difference. I have my eye on the monster avs2000 which i can get at a decent price (i don't want to hear if you think monster is overpriced etc. i just want to know of a voltage stabalizer is going to make a difference in my system) I really don't have a way to "test" it other than to buy it and keep it or return it if it "doesn't work" Anyway any input would be appreciated .
TV ................Sony kdl52xbr4
Reciever ........Denon AVR 988
Amp -............Monster MPA 2250
Bluray............Sony PS3 (80gig)
Hddvd............xbox 360 Hddvd
Power centers.Monster 3600II & 2600II & 1600 x2
Voltage..........Monster AVS 2000
Fronts ...........polk Rti12s
Center ..........polk Csi5
Rears.............polk Fxi5s
Sub ..............Infinity PS12
cables............Monster / DIY
Video games...XBOX 360 / Wii
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited January 2007
    Talk to your electricity company. If you are certain that you're only getting 110 volts all the time, there may be a problem.
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  • higgins79
    higgins79 Posts: 72
    edited January 2007
    my power conditioner has the system running at 110 all the time. The house is way old (don't know if that matters, but the electrical wiring etc is pretty old) anyway i might give them a call as you suggested.
    TV ................Sony kdl52xbr4
    Reciever ........Denon AVR 988
    Amp -............Monster MPA 2250
    Bluray............Sony PS3 (80gig)
    Hddvd............xbox 360 Hddvd
    Power centers.Monster 3600II & 2600II & 1600 x2
    Voltage..........Monster AVS 2000
    Fronts ...........polk Rti12s
    Center ..........polk Csi5
    Rears.............polk Fxi5s
    Sub ..............Infinity PS12
    cables............Monster / DIY
    Video games...XBOX 360 / Wii
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  • higgins79
    higgins79 Posts: 72
    edited January 2007
    any other thoughts on the voltage stabalizer?
    TV ................Sony kdl52xbr4
    Reciever ........Denon AVR 988
    Amp -............Monster MPA 2250
    Bluray............Sony PS3 (80gig)
    Hddvd............xbox 360 Hddvd
    Power centers.Monster 3600II & 2600II & 1600 x2
    Voltage..........Monster AVS 2000
    Fronts ...........polk Rti12s
    Center ..........polk Csi5
    Rears.............polk Fxi5s
    Sub ..............Infinity PS12
    cables............Monster / DIY
    Video games...XBOX 360 / Wii
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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited January 2007
    I too would call in a pro electrician. It will be the best long term solution if you plan on staying there a while.

    As for voltage correction, if I am correct it is done with a battery backup in the unit. These batteries eventually have to be replaced and are not cheap. I have found that all power conditioners with voltage correction carry only a 1-3 year warranty, where those without it are usually guaranteed for life. It is because of the battery going bad every few years.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2007
    My electrical system runs typically between 118 and 121.5. The only time it goes down to 112 is when a heavy load is temporarily placed on the 200 amp service such as a heavy duty microwave oven. Other than that, it stays within two volts of 120. All the electrical work in this house is new. I think you may be having a problem and it sounds like it is external to your house for the voltage to be that low all the time unless of course the wiring is sooooo old that the corrosion is causing a voltage drop because of high resistance in the house wiring.

    I have a voltage and cycle per second conditioner on my turntable. I would imagine if I had your set up I would want one on any digital transports I have.

    I have a Monster HTS 5100 MK II which is a power center and I am very happy with it in my 2 ch. rig it is not a power conditioner however it does have line noise reduction capabilities. I didn't buy it new and wouldn't. If your power company doesn't have the capability to bring your voltage up then a UPS would be a good choice. The only problem there is they are expensive.
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  • jm1
    jm1 Posts: 618
    edited January 2007
    Voltage regulation does not use a battery. Batteries are used for backup power supplies which is not necessary for audio.

    This is an example of a voltage regulator and has a brief description of what is does.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2007
    jm1 wrote:
    Voltage regulation does not use a battery. Batteries are used for backup power supplies which is not necessary for audio.

    This is an example of a voltage regulator and has a brief description of what is does.

    UPSs had been used for years as voltage regulators in the computer industry atleast before servers required less and less clean power.
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  • jm1
    jm1 Posts: 618
    edited January 2007
    A UPS may contain voltage regulation, but a stand alone voltage regulator do not require a battery.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2007
    jm1 wrote:
    A UPS may contain voltage regulation, but a stand alone voltage regulator do not require a battery.

    I never said that voltage regulators used or required batteries.
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  • jm1
    jm1 Posts: 618
    edited January 2007
    Hearingimpared,

    You are correct you did not say voltage regulators used or required batteries. There are other posts in this thread; one directly linking the two. I was responding to this post from Venomclan.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2007
    jm1 wrote:
    Hearingimpared,

    You are correct you did not say voltage regulators used or required batteries. There are other posts in this thread; one directly linking the two. I was responding to this post from Venomclan.

    Righto.
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  • fireshoes
    fireshoes Posts: 3,167
    edited January 2007
    A few years ago, the electronics store I work at carried the Monster AVS2000. It made a remarkable improvement on the plasma televisions, that most everyone could see.
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  • Deadof_knight
    Deadof_knight Posts: 980
    edited January 2007
    It is my understanding that the Monster power center were noise filters or(line conditioners) the mk II 5000 has stage 4 noise filter sooooo...ups systems have surge protection and battery backup not voltage stabilization . If you want all that then go get the check book cause your wallet cant handle it there wheeeeewww expensive. I cant imagine what a battery backup noise filtration line conditioning unit would run.
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  • jm1
    jm1 Posts: 618
    edited January 2007
    The AVS2000 is a voltage regulator.

    If you require voltage regulation and filtering in one unit, you can get the Furman AR-15 for $467.95 new.

    The only component I would consider putting on a UPS would be any display having a fan to cool the light source.

    Some Belkin UPS units; some with voltage regulation.
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  • higgins79
    higgins79 Posts: 72
    edited January 2007
    so aside from an electrician, if i alrdy have a line condidtioner (moc hts2600mkii)
    will the voltage regulators be a wise investment. i don't think i need ups and if i am understanding the above posts the regulator does not have a battery in it that will eventually run out.
    TV ................Sony kdl52xbr4
    Reciever ........Denon AVR 988
    Amp -............Monster MPA 2250
    Bluray............Sony PS3 (80gig)
    Hddvd............xbox 360 Hddvd
    Power centers.Monster 3600II & 2600II & 1600 x2
    Voltage..........Monster AVS 2000
    Fronts ...........polk Rti12s
    Center ..........polk Csi5
    Rears.............polk Fxi5s
    Sub ..............Infinity PS12
    cables............Monster / DIY
    Video games...XBOX 360 / Wii
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  • cheddar
    cheddar Posts: 2,390
    edited January 2007
    higgins79 wrote:
    so aside from an electrician, if i alrdy have a line condidtioner (moc hts2600mkii)
    will the voltage regulators be a wise investment. i don't think i need ups and if i am understanding the above posts the regulator does not have a battery in it that will eventually run out.

    Yes, you are correct. Battery backups (UPS) can be used to regulate the voltage. But the 2000 and the furman definitely DO NOT use batteries to regulate the voltage. Of the two, I always thought that the furman stuff offered better bang for the buck. But the 2000 will definitely keep your voltage rock solid without batteries if that's what you are looking for.
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  • sickicw
    sickicw Posts: 456
    edited January 2007
    It might be worth a shot to try it out on your tv and front end equipment.
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