Need a new DVD player

heiney9
heiney9 Posts: 25,221
edited January 2007 in Electronics
First off I'm looking for a reliable budget DVDp. I've had 2 Pioneer's that have crapped out on me. Granted they are both about 4-5 years old, but the relaibility has been less than stellar and these were bought when DVDp's were still fairly expensive. I opened them up and there is nothing to them.

I still have a traditional CRT TV and I'm probably a couple years away from going to an LCD/Plasma/DLP, etc. so I don't need a DVDp right now that does all the superb resolution, etc. I'm looking for a reliable workhorse. I use on outboard DAC so audio reproduction doesn't have to be stellar either.

I'm looking for something that will be reliable and still give me a good picture. My budget is under $200 and I would prefer new or refurb would be OK also. Denon seems to have a good rep so I've been looking at

Dvd 1730
Dvd 557

Not sure what the differences are but they seem nice enough for what I want. I've heard good things about Pioneer Elite, but someone convince me I should buy another Pioneer cause I'm not too happy with them right now because of reliability issues.

I'm open to any others and links to websites with outstanding prices is appreciated.

H9
"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited January 2007
    Oppo is the way to go...
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited January 2007
    As general rule I think Denon has the best PQ I've of all the DVD players I've seen. Denon appears to know how to get it right consistently and I've never had a Denon product "crap out" on me. Oppo seems to be the "product du jour" on the fourm lately. Several think it is the only way to go. That may very well be the case. I've never seen one so I can't give an opinion on it.
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  • Disc Jockey
    Disc Jockey Posts: 1,013
    edited January 2007
    Ditto on the Oppo

    970 should work great for you, $150
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,094
    edited January 2007
    Early B. wrote:
    Oppo is the way to go...

    I more vote for the OPPO. It's superb picture quality is through it's DVI/HDMI hookup. On a CRT tv you would be using the componet hookup. This puts the OPPO on par with most other players. However, depending on which model you choose, it's SACD & DVD-Audio capabilities & it's sound on movie playback make it a hands down winner.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited January 2007
    Oppo; my 971 is soooo much better than my bottom-of-the-line Denon 1910....

    You have a 30 days return option, so why not give it a try.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,784
    edited January 2007
    I bought this one in black 1.5 years ago for $250 and love it. For $139 it's a steal:

    http://www.accessories4less.com/cgi-bin/item/MARDV4500S

    With the 3 year warranty, you would not have to worry about reliability. They also have it in black, but that's a refurb, and they want more for it?

    I would never talk you into buying Pioneer. I bought a few pioneer components many years ago, all of them needed service before the warranty was up, and AGAIN shortly after the warranty was over.:(

    No Pioneer for me thanks.
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited January 2007
    H9 - lots of good ones in the under $200 range. I am not sure if there are any NIB Denon 910's floating around, but that DVD player is solid as a rock and decent PQ. I bought a Cambridge Audio closeout 540 DVD player from AudioAdvisor for $249, and it beats a Denon 3910 for PQ and SQ. Upscale Audio, and PrimeTime in Rockford have NAD T532's for around $299, which is an excellent DVD for both PQ and SQ. I've had good luck with the cheap Sony and Toshiba DVD's that I have bought for the farm in IA, where I have an older CRT TV.
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  • scottvamp
    scottvamp Posts: 3,277
    edited January 2007
    I just purchased a new one myself. I really don't like my Zenith. I looked on the internet and CNET put out a top ten list. I bought the Sony from Best Buy with a $50 gift card, so $80 in the door.
    http://reviews.cnet.com/4323-6531_7-6509120.html
  • shawn474
    shawn474 Posts: 3,052
    edited January 2007
    Get the Oppo man. You will not be disappointed.

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,221
    edited January 2007
    dkg999 wrote:
    H9 - lots of good ones in the under $200 range. I am not sure if there are any NIB Denon 910's floating around, but that DVD player is solid as a rock and decent PQ. I bought a Cambridge Audio closeout 540 DVD player from AudioAdvisor for $249, and it beats a Denon 3910 for PQ and SQ. Upscale Audio, and PrimeTime in Rockford have NAD T532's for around $299, which is an excellent DVD for both PQ and SQ. I've had good luck with the cheap Sony and Toshiba DVD's that I have bought for the farm in IA, where I have an older CRT TV.

    Thanks Doug, I have an el cheapo Tosh in the closet brand new in the box I took it out and I don't like the lack of display info. It will work in a pinch, but.....

    $200 is my upper limit because I know I will only use it for a year or two until I move to a nice HD tv set, etc. I can get a Denon 1730 for $139 on-line and that's a pretty good deal. I like the Cambridge line but it's just too expensive for what I will use it for at this time. I don't even watch that many DVD's in a month's time. I use my DVDp mostly for cdr's because the Nak hiccups sometimes since it's an older model.

    Actually the only thing wrong with the Pioneer I have is the drawer keeps closing as soon as I open it. It does this until you cycle it about 10-12 times, a real PITA. My other Pioneer just doesn't do video any more. I get a blank screen and only the audio.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited January 2007
    one more vote for the oppo for the money involved here. i have the 970 model it does up to 1080i upconversion. sacd and dvd audio also. so a bonus as a multi player. i took it over to my buddys house the other day to compare with his denon 2920 on his sony 65' xbr. no comparison the oppo even though only being a $150.00 player was like a veil had been removed off the screen it was so much better. his first words were WOW i gotta get one of these. i cant beleive i spent the money that i did on the denon i feel like ive been ripped off now were his words exactly. REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,221
    edited January 2007
    snow wrote:
    one more vote for the oppo for the money involved here. i have the 970 model it does up to 1080i upconversion. sacd and dvd audio also. so a bonus as a multi player. i took it over to my buddys house the other day to compare with his denon 2920 on his sony 65' xbr. no comparison the oppo even though only being a $150.00 player was like a veil had been removed off the screen it was so much better. his first words were WOW i gotta get one of these. i cant beleive i spent the money that i did on the denon i feel like ive been ripped off now were his words exactly. REGARDS SNOW

    The Oppo sounds like it's in the running. I could care less about audio as I'll be running it thru an outbaord DAC and I have no need for SACD at this price point. Upconversion is not a priority right now as my current TV can't take advantage. I would like the option of an optical digital output rather than just coax so add that to the list.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited January 2007
    H9 - Prime Time on the corner of State & Perryville had some of the Oppo's on special prior to Christmas. I can't remember which model they had. Doug.
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited January 2007
    the oppos have a toslink connection if thats something you would like as an option. here is a link to the 970. http://www.oppodigital.com/dv970hd/dv970hd.html REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • VSchneider
    VSchneider Posts: 443
    edited January 2007
    heiney9 wrote:
    Denon seems to have a good rep so I've been looking at

    Dvd 1730
    Dvd 557

    Not sure what the differences are...

    I had the same question. Are there any real differences between the two? The specs seem identical.

    I picked up a DVD-557 for only $69 +tax (no, it's not a typo) from CC this past weekend only because I couldn’t resist the price. It seemed a little ugly compared to some flashy models from Sony, LG and Zenith, but now it looks much better since I have it in my equipment rack.

    This is my 1st HDMI player, so it's hard to comment on PQ. Next to my older 5-disk Sony changer it seems similar through component connection.

    I will post a follow-up once I have tested it thoroughly with HDMI.