Need some encouragement to bi-wire

Early B.

My system is begging to be bi-wired. My amp has two pair of binding posts for each channel. Flip a switch on the back of the amp and it changes to a bi-wire configuration. Likewise with my speakers; they have a switch on the back for bi-wiring (no external jumpers).

Just not sure if bi-wiring is worth the hassle. Of course, there's only one way to find out, hence the encouragement needed. Is it a road worth traveling?

Thanks.

P.S. -- I don't have an extra set of nice speaker cables to experiment with, so that's why I'm posing the question. I'd have to spend some money to do it. Aaarrgghhh!!

Dennis Gardner

Just my findings.............I've never heard any real difference in biwiring and only subtle differences with biamping even with some fairly nice gear until I went active biamping with an electronic crossover on the ADS towers that have the biamp mode that cuts out the internal crossovers completely.

I will add that it is always worth a try since the cost of another wire run is minimal, and reversable.

Early B.

Thanks, Dennis. The comments about your own experiences makes my decision easier.

F1nut

You'll get no encouragement from me.

beardog03

do it...do it


do it...



I did.....

doesn`t make it right, but I did....:rolleyes:




oh , wait !
I just re-read your post...

don`t do it

won`t make a damn bit of difference

Frank Z

I tried it...no difference to my ears.

schwarcw

This is one of the much debated and opinionated topics. If you believe that better quality jumpers work, the bi-wires should make an improvement too. For the same reason, the signal to the tweeters by-passes some crossovers components for the mid and low bass woofers.

There will be folks that say that interconnects make a big difference, but speakers wires don't.

Some don't think either will change the SQ.

I have heard differences in all of the above, when matched with the right equipment. Good equipment will reveal the limitations of some of your conductors.

Or maybe not:D

Only your ears can tell you, be open minded and give it a try.

beardog03

If you bi-amp off a reciever you will not hear a diff...

Like you just said ...if your gear can make it happen , and your able to hear that it can, then I say Do It..

Try it...what do ya got to loose..?!

IanD

I bi-wired my old RT55's and like some folks above, no difference. Kept them bi-wired cause it looked nice.:rolleyes:
However on my new Rti10's it made a difference, at least to my ears. The cable I used is ISOS XHS806, double runs. Was it a huge difference? Not really but since all those binding posts were back there I decided to use them.
I would agree that before you bi-wire, loose the stamped mystery metal jumpers and replace them with quality speaker cable. Do not confuse quality with high price. IXOS cable is pretty inexpensive and it will make a difference to what your ears hear. (I paid $2.50 a foot) Another cable that works for me and is a bargin is Canare 4S6 (again around $2.50 a foot) and can be used a bi-wire cable or twisted together to make a regular double cable.
I have to agree that it also depends upon the equipment in your system and how you have your cables running behind the system. If you took the time to make sure that power cords are away from interconnects are away from speaker cables, I bet that sound as well a PQ would improve.
Just my 2 cents on an early Saturday morning.

danger boy

DO IT, DO IT, DO IT!

don't do it, don't do it, DON'T DO IT!!!

Oh what the hell DO IT, DO IT, DO IT!!!!

Nevermind, DON'T DO IT, DON'T DO IT!!!!!

Well, might as well DO IT, DO IT, DO IT!!!!!

but then I wouldn't DO IT, DON'T DO IT, DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!

Early B.

Decided not to do it.

Thanks, fellas.

beardog03

danger boy wrote:

DO IT, DO IT, DO IT!

don't do it, don't do it, DON'T DO IT!!!

Oh what the hell DO IT, DO IT, DO IT!!!!

Nevermind, DON'T DO IT, DON'T DO IT!!!!!

Well, might as well DO IT, DO IT, DO IT!!!!!

but then I wouldn't DO IT, DON'T DO IT, DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!

wwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

right there with ya bro...!!!

Just do it already !
It can`t hurt......much



nevermind.....don`t do it

shack

I say...bi-amp.

amulford

What do you mean you have bi wire config on your amp? does it filter, a kind of internal active croosover?

tonyb

Thats what tweeking is all about.You'll never know till you try.Personnally,I would,those big boys deserve it.

janmike

Like stated before, if you don't you will never know. I am sure you had the same feeling early in your audio hobby about something else. DO IT!

Early B.

amulford wrote:

What do you mean you have bi wire config on your amp? does it filter, a kind of internal active croosover?

Correction -- no switch on the back (the switch is for balanced/unbalanced). The amp has two pair of binding posts for each channel in case you wanna bi-wire.

Early B.

The other influencing factor for NOT bi-wiring came from a VMPS guru who owned these speakers before and he said bi-wiring didn't help, although running a set of external jumpers may offer a slight improvement.

danger boy

I think people like to explore with bi wiring because they are curious about it.. some think they will see a big improvement in their speakers sound quality. I was there myself long ago.. and let me tell you.. it cured my curiosity... and I never tried it again.

So Early.. just try it out.... don't worry about what i wrote... you obviously have been thinking about it alot.. and it's going to be eating away at you till you try it for yourself.. so do it.

just be safe and wear a condom. :eek: :rolleyes:

polkatese

Brad, give it a try. If it works, great, if not, so what? Your curiousity will eat you alive, otherwise.

Early B.

danger boy wrote:

just be safe and wear a condom. :eek: :rolleyes:

I always do, just in case I need to contain pre-nut leakage...
Makes a **** of a stain.

Early B.

polkatese wrote:

Brad, give it a try. If it works, great, if not, so what? Your curiousity will eat you alive, otherwise.

My curiosity has waned. Already moved onto somethin' else -- a sealed sub for HT.