Apple iPhone

Holydoc

dkg999 wrote:

Holydoc - I have been at more than one client's facility where we were asked to leave our cell phones with security because of the camera.

Then you definitely understand my concern.

Sami

dkg999 wrote:

Holydoc - I have been at more than one client's facility where we were asked to leave our cell phones with security because of the camera.

I worked 9 years for Nokia on the R&D side, no cameras were allowed since we had highly confidential material all over the place. Well, one problem...most of the cell phones we were developing had cameras as well as company issued cell phones that we needed to have during the work day. Of course the rule was never enforced on none of the employees, still I thought it was funny.

dane_peterson

Interesting, I didn't realize this thread was titled "Features I don't need in my phone". Just because all you grandpas have a hard enough time dialing 9 digits, doesn't mean this phone isn't a completely revolutionary piece of hardware.
Is the iPhone $600? Yes. Is the iPhone way more than the average consumer needs? Yes. But it seems to me some of you guys are trying WAY too hard to dislike the thing. Is it because it's Apple? Is it because it's expensive? Let's take it for what it is, not for what it is TO YOU.

And as a sidenote--A wise person once told me "Spend the most money on the things you'll use the most." Many of us have spent just as much on interconnects and powercords; for theaters and stereos we use 1-2hrs/day? Maybe less? Just a thought...

Fireman32

Dane i'm a big fan of Apple. I love the IPOD and eventully plan on buying a laptop from them. I'm not going to buy the IPhone for a couple of reasons.
1. I have an IPOD
2. The price (i'm sure it will drop in time) although $600 for all of the features it has is really not bad I just cant afford it now
3. I dont use Cingular and do not want to switch carriers
4. I have a good cell phone

Just my .02

shack

dane_peterson wrote:

Interesting, I didn't realize this thread was titled "Features I don't need in my phone". Just because all you grandpas have a hard enough time dialing 9 digits, doesn't mean this phone isn't a completely revolutionary piece of hardware.
Is the iPhone $600? Yes. Is the iPhone way more than the average consumer needs? Yes. But it seems to me some of you guys are trying WAY too hard to dislike the thing. Is it because it's Apple? Is it because it's expensive? Let's take it for what it is, not for what it is TO YOU.

And as a sidenote--A wise person once told me "Spend the most money on the things you'll use the most." Many of us have spent just as much on interconnects and powercords; for theaters and stereos we use 1-2hrs/day? Maybe less? Just a thought...

There are lots of things that are "revolutionary pieces of hardware" that I have no use or need for. It seems to me that some of you guys are trying WAY to hard to make me think all that stuff is necessary. I certainly have no problem with technology, as I sit here typing on a desktop computer with an Intel dual core processor viewing on a 20 inch flatscreen and literally the world at my fingertips. I know what the iPhone is...something that I have no need for and that is what is important TO ME.

dane_peterson

No offense, Shack, but we're not all on a quest to make YOU think things are "necessary". I'm not directing my comments to any particular member. So you don't like it, or wouldn't use it, or would NEVER consider spending $600 on a phone. Whatever. Bottom line, it's unlike anything else out there, and a big step toward future electronics/networking. There's a reason this thing is on the front page of newspapers and all over the news. Don't try to wash it away like "just another smartphone".

dkg999

I'll wait for the Chinese nock-off of it with the image of a glowing tube embedded in the background of the video screen

shack

Let's see what happens. The hype is there...for the moment. But it's not all positive. Unlike the MP3 market, there are already serious competetors out there for the phone business. They are not simply going to roll over and play dead. There are questions about the network for the iPhone, the price, the demand (if you have already spent $350-$400 for an iPod are you ready to spend another $500 to have the phone and wifi?) and whether Apple is ready to play in the PHONE arena. Like me there are many who view the phone as a serious tool...not an entertainment gadget. Apple has a poor track record when it comes to business applicastions for its products. On top of that the analyst who follow Apple have serious questions about Apple's chances. The investors are enamored with the company right now...but if the iPhone fails to meet expectaions then that could create more issues.

As I said in an earlier post, Apple has in the past introduced innovative products but were not able to turn that into a profitable endeavor. With little or no real competetors, iPod and iTunes has been a big success. Only time will tell if they can produce the same results with the iPhone.

BTW - They may not even be able to use the "iPhone" name:

Linksys, a division of Cisco Systems Inc. that makes networking equipment for the home and small businesses, unveiled its new iPhone line of Internet-enabled phones last month. Cisco has owned the trademark on the name "iPhone" since 2000.

Cisco has the clout to go head to head with Apple over the name if they choose to do so.

BIZILL

don't care for apple. do love my 'toys'. my windows mobile 2005 phone sucks ****. lock up's all the time. i'm sure it is both hardware and software causing it. this phone seems to be very sweet. but not gonna drop 6 large ones to upgrade. and sprint don't got it......yet.

dane_peterson

Shack, thank you for that post. I appreciate the professional, factual views on the product. Yes, Apple has released innovative products in the past that ended up not being profitable. They still however, get referred to as "innovative". That in itself, at least in my opinion, marks success.

My guess is that being Cingular-specific is going to be the Achilles' heel if the iPhone fails. But I have no doubt that it will significantly increase Cingular's 2-yr agreements!

punk-roc

I personally have been waiting for a phone that'll do multiple things pretty well. None of the smart phones up to this point have quite what i'm looking for as far as tools and battery life. This iPHONE seems to be the closest one yet and i'm excited as far that goes, but will definitely wait in until several months post-release to make sure things are going the way they should before i take the $600 plunge...

Jason

F1nut

That seems like pretty archaic thinking to me. Have you never wanted to access the internet or listen to music when you're away from your home or work PC or stereo?

Really? The iPhone seems pretty stupid to me. Hell, I don't even like having a cell phone that much.

No.

There is such a thing as too much technology. Something to think about.

shack

When I travel on the airlines, I have this great entertainment system. It's called a book. Keeps me occupied, I enjoy it and when the idiot next to me spills his drink on it I'm not out several hundred dollars because of the unrepairable liquid damage the new electronic gadgets are susceptable to.

Holydoc

shack wrote:

When I travel on the airlines, I have this great entertainment system. It's called a book. Keeps me occupied, I enjoy it and when the idiot next to me spills his drink on it I'm not out several hundred dollars because of the unrepairable liquid damage the new electronic gadgets are susceptable to.

Nice thing about an IPOD is that you are not limited to just reading a single book. With my IPOD that is half the size of a book, I have 14 audiobooks, 8 movies, 41 TV Shows, 570 Podcasts, 1400 songs, and of course Texas Holdem Game (don't expect me to do without my gambling, I hope!). I fly at least twice a month and in all my time owning an IPOD, I have never lost it due to any acts of God or that idiot sitting beside me.

So if one book is great then does that make 14 books 14 times better? Does one person need so much entertainment? Hell ya, I am worth it!

I think my point is that all gadgets are not for everyone. If you don't like them then no problem. I think the point of this thread was to applaud the idea not try to sell you one. I do not expect nor is anyone trying to convince anyone in this thread to buy one. All we are doing is applauding the innovation. It is that innovation that opens the door for even better ideas in the future. Who cares whether it profits or fails. It is the idea that counts and the fact that someone has the guts to take a chance (you know like cordless speakers...hint, hint Polk).

Like I said, my situation limits me so I cannot even consider one of these iPhones. That doesn't stop me however from applauding the idea. Thank goodness people like Henry Ford, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Edison, and the Wright Brothers had a thick skin and went against the odds and popular opinion. Otherwise I would have to walk across country to get that entertaining handwritten book in order to read it by candlelight.:D

dgt2n

Well said.

I certainly did not expect these types of responses on a technology/audio/HT based board. Anyway, to each his own.

dane_peterson

anonymouse wrote:

My T-Mobile HTC does what I need it to do. And it was up and running with my outlook exchange server in 5 minutes without needing to contact the IT mafia in my company. Microsoft gives power to the people. Apple gives power to all the girlie men.

That was an incredibly ignorant and useless comment. And I can promise you Apple has the upper hand in terms of quick and easy plug-and-play.

PhantomOG

So what exactly does the iPhone do that other phones on the market don't already do? Link to itunes? Have no hard buttons? Maybe I just forgot to drink the juice but it just doesn't sound that "revolutionary" at all to me.

bobman1235

It doesn't do anything that isn't already available. Like most Apple products, it's about packaging and UI. It has by far the largest screen, so if you're using it for video / pictures, it's great. It's thin. And it has a funky intuitive interface. Other than that, it's just a PDA/Phone like any blackberry.

PolkThug

Cool. Looks like it can do full html and display the whole page at once. I really like my enV phone, but it still works best with wap optimized pages.

vhabaygiurbm

droooooooooooool.............:)

Mjr7531

dane_peterson wrote:

Interesting, I didn't realize this thread was titled "Features I don't need in my phone". Just because all you grandpas have a hard enough time dialing 9 digits, doesn't mean this phone isn't a completely revolutionary piece of hardware.

dane_peterson wrote:

I'm not directing my comments to any particular member.

Are you sure?

We can all agree on this, it's big. My own opinion is that this is going to spawn a whole ton of knock-off and it will steer the cell-phone further down the path of gadgetry, fine. I however only use my cell-phone for texting (sentences, I'm fine with the number pad) and for making calls. I don't want any more than that because I won't use it, I already have the aforementioned things in the phone or I don't need it.

Besides, even if I did want it, I'd probably not want the Apple version, I want to have a replaceable battery, and I think it needs to have all of the kinks worked out.

Another thing, I'm 19 and I have no problem putting in 7 digits :mad:

tonyb

shack wrote:

When I travel on the airlines, I have this great entertainment system. It's called a book. Keeps me occupied, I enjoy it and when the idiot next to me spills his drink on it I'm not out several hundred dollars because of the unrepairable liquid damage the new electronic gadgets are susceptable to.

A book???? What a concept Shack!!!:)
{what exactly is that anyway}:p

dgt2n

I must have missed the memo where if you own a portable music player or enjoy films, you can't read or don't enjoy a book.

tonyb

dgt2n wrote:

I must have missed the memo where if you own a portable music player or enjoy films, you can't read or don't enjoy a book.

Nobody is saying that.But good old fashioned book reading seems to be getting lost on the younger generation.Of coarse,does not apply to all.

shack

dgt2n wrote:

I certainly did not expect these types of responses on a technology/audio/HT based board.

You don't come here very often do you? A large segment of the members of this forum get more excited by vacuum tubes and vinyl recordings than anything Apple is producing today. To me it is the Jurassic Park of consumer electronics. Taking something prehistoric (in audio terms) and making it new again.

bobman1235 wrote:

It doesn't do anything that isn't already available. Like most Apple products, it's about packaging and UI. It has by far the largest screen, so if you're using it for video / pictures, it's great. It's thin. And it has a funky intuitive interface. Other than that, it's just a PDA/Phone like any blackberry.

Ding...ding...ding....We have a winner.

I have seen the term revoulutionary used about this phone. It is any thing but. The next step is probably a better term. Innovatative..maybe, but remember these things were envisioned 50 years ago. Apple (and others) are simply bringing the vision of the past to fruition. Now the chips and microprocessors...those are revolutionary. Nano technology...thats innovative.

I'm all for advances in technology...in fact I am a proponent of technology. I was writing computer programs in basic, fortran, COBAL, etc... before many of you guys were born. My family has been involved in computers for years as well. My Father installed one of the first retail POS inventory tracking systems in the southeast with the help of Honeywell. They built the thing from scratch in a 20'x30' room dedicated to the gear. Today an iPod or cell phone probably has as much processing capablity as that room full of gear.

My issue with the iPhone (or whatever it will be call after Cisco wins the name issue) is the typical over-hyping of something that undeniably is cool, just not that necessary for everyone.

Show me something that cures cancer, transports matter faster than the speed of light, generates unlimited amounts of clean, safe energy....I will get excited and join the hype with every one else. I don't put the (alleged) iPhone in the same category..that's all.

For all you guys that want it...love it...yearn for it...NEED it. I hope it fulfills all your expectations and meets all your needs.

Gotta go...that damn cell phone is ringing....;)

dane_peterson

I say we close this thread and start a new one when the thing is actually available. The dead horse has been beaten (my assistance included).

shack

Dead horse??? This pony is barely bruised. Now if you want to see a pile of equine corpses....head over to any power cable, speaker cable or interconnect thread.

goingganzo

i say the less devices i have to carry the betteri have the slvr and it is nice havving a phone and mp3 player in onev is better

Holydoc

shack wrote:

Dead horse??? This pony is barely bruised. Now if you want to see a pile of equine corpses....head over to any power cable, speaker cable or interconnect thread.

Now that made me smile.

dane_peterson

LoL. Indeed. But I'm going to zip my mouth now till it's released in a few months. Time will tell.