Martin Logan Abyss vs SVS PB12-Plus/2

McLoki

Dr. Spec wrote:

Ed Mullen
SVS

Welcome back Doc. Congrats on the new position. What can you tell us about the new SVS Ultra13? (Doctor patient relationship and all I promise not to tell anyone else... )

Michael

cstpeter

Harrold, congrats on the new sub. For 90% movies and TV, I definitely think you made the right choice. Looking forward to hearing your impressions.

BTW, I've also owned the Martin Logan Dynamo and was very impressed by that little thing. Great performance and very musical for a $600 sub. I'd imagine the Abyss is more of the same. Did you get a chance to demo it?

Anyway, enjoy the new setup. I bet that kind of upgrade makes it sound like a whole new system.

harold280z

cstpeter wrote:

Harrold, congrats on the new sub. For 90% movies and TV, I definitely think you made the right choice. Looking forward to hearing your impressions.

BTW, I've also owned the Martin Logan Dynamo and was very impressed by that little thing. Great performance and very musical for a $600 sub. I'd imagine the Abyss is more of the same. Did you get a chance to demo it?

Anyway, enjoy the new setup. I bet that kind of upgrade makes it sound like a whole new system.

I've got the Abyss for a demo it was nice, but I'm looking for more:D My Dynamo is great for the bedroom. Hope to be up & running my new sub by Tuesday.....:D pictures will follow soon!

Strong Bad

Dr. Spec wrote:

John - It was great taking your order and catching up on old times with a long-time Polkie. Once things settle down for me, I hope to be spending more time at my old stomping grounds - and still one of the best forums around - Club Polk. :^)

Ed Mullen
SVS

Ed - Thanks so much for taking the order and the nice conversation. I thought that was the coolest thing when I found out that it was you on the other end of the line. I read the Polk Forum thread about you joining SVS, but didn't expect to get you on the line.

You almost had me going for a box sub, but I always loved the look of the cylinders since SVS was introduced. Only the Ultra would satisfy my appetite!

I'll keep an eye out for your "Polk Forum Drive-byes" in the future.

John

harold280z

OMG! This is huge! Just got my new SVS PB12-Plus/2 ! I'm going to take tomorrow off to play!

Strong Bad

My PC-Ultra arrived today. Good lord, now this is what I call a sub! I hooked it up and had a movie playing. I decided to move it back a little bit to the wall WHILE the movie was playing. Something big hit in the movie and this huge gush of air slammed me in the chest while I was moving it. Holy hell!

I have off Friday, so it's playtime.

harold280z

Strong Bad wrote:

My PC-Ultra arrived today. Good lord, now this is what I call a sub! I hooked it up and had a movie playing. I decided to move it back a little bit to the wall WHILE the movie was playing. Something big hit in the movie and this huge gush of air slammed me in the chest while I was moving it. Holy hell!

I have off Friday, so it's playtime.

Ok SVS needs to put a warning on this sub!(neighbors might ask you to leave after hearing & feeling the bass):eek: This sub is amazing! I now not only hear it I feel the bass, oh how sweet it is!:D

SLOCOOKN

Harold I am glad you are having fun. I did decide to go with VMPS. I found and Orgional sub. I will get my pre back by friday and let ya know how it sounds...I hope I dont have to sell and buy a svs ....with your glowing reviews I hope I made a good choice! The VMPS is 3 1/2 feet tall cant wait to hear how it plays with the other toys....Have fun....who needs neighbors anyways....

PSOVLSK

I've had my Plus/2 for almost a year now and it made the best improvement to my system than any other upgrade. Some upgrades yield a subtle improvement (also known as: my wife can't tell a difference). Let me assure you that my wife noticed a difference when I hooked up the SVS. I think this is the only A/V equipment I have that my wife feels like I got my money's worth. Hope you enjoy your purchase as much as I've enjoyed mine.

harold280z

PSOVLSK wrote:

I've had my Plus/2 for almost a year now and it made the best improvement to my system than any other upgrade. Some upgrades yield a subtle improvement (also known as: my wife can't tell a difference). Let me assure you that my wife noticed a difference when I hooked up the SVS. I think this is the only A/V equipment I have that my wife feels like I got my money's worth. Hope you enjoy your purchase as much as I've enjoyed mine.

I know I'm going to enjoy this sub! I think your wife is 100% on point with getting your money's worth...heck I would have paid more for this sub:eek: wait that's the bass talking......I must be weak from all this bass:D

Dr. Spec

Strong Bad wrote:

My PC-Ultra arrived today. Good lord, now this is what I call a sub! I hooked it up and had a movie playing. I decided to move it back a little bit to the wall WHILE the movie was playing. Something big hit in the movie and this huge gush of air slammed me in the chest while I was moving it. Holy hell!

I have off Friday, so it's playtime.

John:

Glad you're loving the PC-Ultra; it's a serious piece of hardware. :^) If you guys have any set-up or calibration questions, just ping me over at sales@svsound.com.

Ed

Schwingding

Mrs. Schwingding asked me the other day about my subs. "Have you changed something?" She asked because she said she didn't feel the house shaking nearly as much lately.

I think there are two or three reasons for this;

1. I've settled into my subs / the newness factor is cooling down so I'm not demo'ing every bass track I can find, extra loudly.
2. I seem to have relieved a lot of the "boominess" by paying careful attention to the phase controls and room placement.
3. I'm after a more realistic sound now. I don't need bass 24x7 but rather only when it is supposed to be there.

Last night I was watching "Any Bully" on blu-ray (WOW!), anyway, there are very distinct areas of the film where lots of bass is present, mainly when full sized humans are walking - from the ants' persepective. It was during this film that I realized just how good these PB12+/2s are, quiet when supposed to be, but I got quite a "holy ****" out of myself a few times when they're really on queue. It is with movies like this - quiet but with momentary delves into really deep bass, that I realize just how good these things are. With lesser subs, I always needed to turn them up to levels where they were always present in order to get the volume and presence I was after. With these however, they're there, ready to do what is required of them, and not there when not needed. I am still literally shocked that they energize the 20'x25' concrete floor beneath me to the degree that the dogs shake and seek higher ground.

This week I'm going to plant one +/2 right on top of the other, supposedly this'll be even better. Hard to imagine.