Passive Crossover for Sub

jakelm
jakelm Posts: 4,081
edited December 2006 in DIY, Mods & Tweaks
I'm having an issue with my Hk 635 avr. It just not crossing over the subs like I want it to. It seems to be holding a flat responce all the way up to 120hz before rolling off @12dbs/octive. I have the sub crossover point on the reciever set to 60hz. And I still get a spike between 90 and 110hz. I get the same responce no matter what crossover point I use. So something is going on with the reciever.

I have 2 subs hooked to a vintage Hafler amp, via subwoofer preout. Im thinking of building (if possible) a passive sub crossover. Something that rolls off between 12 and 24 dbs/octive @ around 70-80hz with no highpass filter. Any suggestions?

Jake
Monitor 7b's front
Monitor 4's surround
Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
M10's back surround
Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
Harman/Kardon AVR-635
Oppo 981hd
Denon upconvert DVD player
Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
Mit RPTV WS-55513
Tosh HD-XA1
B&K AV5000


Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek:
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  • jm1
    jm1 Posts: 618
    edited December 2006
    jakelm wrote:
    ... And I still get a spike between 90 and 110hz. I get the same responce no matter what crossover point I use. ...
    Could this be a room mode issue since it appears regardless what you do? Have you tried to reposition your speakers/subs and listening position to see if you can reduce the spike?
    All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed and third, it is accepted as self evident.
    Arthur Schopenhauer
  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited December 2006
    Jm, If the crossover point is set to 60hz, I would think if a 100hz signal is sent, no audible sound would apear as strong as 40-70hz. I had this same setup with my older Onkyo502, when I would run a sub test with crossover set on the reciever to 60hz, I would get little to no sound out of the subs above 80hz or so, much less an increase in dbs @ or around 100hz.

    Jake
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


    Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek:
  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited December 2006
    I'm thinking of going with this bash amp and changing the bass boost resistors to my liking http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=300-750

    and just putting my Hafler on my Polk 7b's.

    What do you all think?

    My subs consist of a 3.7cuft encloser with a 3" port 11"long. I curently have a Dyaton 12" 4ohm DVC in that encloser. I have a SVS 12.1 that I will swop with the Dayton when the SVS comes in. Then put the Dayton in a 3.0 PE encloser with a similar port and similar amp.

    Jake

    P.S Does anyone have any experience with this Bash amp?
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


    Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek:
  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited December 2006
    Also, would you know if this bash amp is similar to the one that SVS uses?
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


    Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek:
  • Gaara
    Gaara Posts: 2,415
    edited December 2006
    Harrison Labs makes passive crossovers called FMODs, you just hook them up inline with the cable going to the sub amp. Can be found at parts express, for example 70 hz low pass

    Jared
  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited December 2006
    Thanks Gaara, Just an update. I have desided to put my Hafler on the 7b's and get the BASH 300s plate amp from PE. But if I were to go with another external amp, that would be a great buy. Thanks for your input.

    Jake
    Monitor 7b's front
    Monitor 4's surround
    Frankinpolk Center (2 mw6503's with peerless tweeter)
    M10's back surround
    Hafler-200 driving patio Daytons
    Tempest-X 15" DIY sub w/ Rythmik 350A plate amp
    Dayton 12" DVC w/ Rythmik 350a plate amp
    Harman/Kardon AVR-635
    Oppo 981hd
    Denon upconvert DVD player
    Jennings Research (vintage and rare)
    Mit RPTV WS-55513
    Tosh HD-XA1
    B&K AV5000


    Dont BAN me Bro!!!!:eek: