New Gallo Reference 5LS Prototype

RuSsMaN
RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
edited December 2006 in Speakers
Hardcore.

http://www.avrev.com/news/1106/09.gallo5ls.shtml
Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,757
    edited December 2006
    Hmmmm....me like!!!
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited December 2006
    Daaaang...
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  • ESavinon
    ESavinon Posts: 3,066
    edited December 2006
    Wow! I'm in love!
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited December 2006
    Yeah..try getting that by your wives.:D
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited December 2006
    holy crap. I just don't get how he could get any bass out of those 4" woofers- unless they've got a crazy low Fs, it doesn't matter how many there are.
    Gallo Ref 3.1 : Bryston 4b SST : Musical fidelity CD Pre : VPI HW-19
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited December 2006
    unc2701 wrote:
    holy crap. I just don't get how he could get any bass out of those 4" woofers- unless they've got a crazy low Fs, it doesn't matter how many there are.

    Fs be damned, they don't have the displacement to do it. 12 4"'s would be equivelent to a low to midrange 8" driver.

    That said, that thing looks nice...
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited December 2006
    Based on what calculation James?

    http://www.epiphanyaudio.com/products.html

    4 inch drivers that I've heard in person, solid into the low 30's.
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited December 2006
    Geometry - Surface area times throw.

    In bass - No replacement for displacement

    There are 8" drivers that by themselves are solid into the low 30's as well...

    Those 12 4" drivers have at best a 0.5" throw. That equates to an 8" driver with a 1.5" throw which is fairly common today. Each setup would have 96PI in^3 displacement. Now the 4"s will probably sound much better and blend better into a room than the 8.
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited December 2006
    eh... it's a balancing act, but displacement has a lot more to do with SPL than your final -3db point. Move the xmax down and you just get a parallel line at lower SPL. Lower the Fs and you get a lower -3db.

    I'm assuming that there's no correction circuit involved to boost that bottom end.

    Regardless, Gallo clearly knows his **** & I can't wait to get those Ref 3's into my listening room.
    Gallo Ref 3.1 : Bryston 4b SST : Musical fidelity CD Pre : VPI HW-19
    Gallo Ref AV, Frankengallo Ref 3, LC60i : Bryston 9b SST : Meridian 565
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,586
    edited December 2006
    unc2701 wrote:
    Regardless, Gallo clearly knows his **** & I can't wait to get those Ref 3's into my listening room.

    Exactly, if Gallo didnt know how to design speakers, he wouldnt have made it this far in the speaker business.

    Just wait and listen.

    Joey
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited December 2006
    Wingynut - what wife:D The GF has already resigned herself to the den and half the basement being off-limits should we ever attempt the same address thing.

    Cool looking speakers. I would love to spend some time listening to them!
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited December 2006
    jdhdiggs wrote:
    Geometry - Surface area times throw.

    Those 12 4" drivers have at best a 0.5" throw. That equates to an 8" driver with a 1.5" throw which is fairly common today. Each setup would have 96PI in^3 displacement. Now the 4"s will probably sound much better and blend better into a room than the 8.

    All things equal, with FLAT drivers, maybe the equation would hold water. It's not simply the diameter, but the cone depth and shape also. You have no idea what the xmax of the drivers are. Easy examples at the links below:

    http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=264-846

    3mm Xmax.

    http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=264-828 (similar to what the Epiphany's use)

    4mm Xmax.

    http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=296-145

    2.7mm Xmax.

    http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=297-010

    3mm Xmax.

    http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=297-434

    3mm Xmax.

    ...and so on, you get the drift.

    With proper cabinet design, and multiple drivers, you can get the tuning frequency VERY low. That's why people that like line arrays LIKE line arrays. You can acheive full range, musical bass, with multiple small, fast drivers.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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