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dudeinaroom
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candyliquor35m was kind enough to let me audition a pair of kimber kable pbj's to demo. This offer came from this post
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WOW. Man I gotta buy me some $1000 dollar interconnects! If these sound this nice (I've seen them for around $75 on the net) I can only imagine what more expensive cables would do.
First thing I noticed was how much more the treble was detailed. It's almost like some one removed a light sheet from in front of my speakers. The midrange is very smooth and natural sounding. And the bass has more impact and depth. My wife could also tell the difference. My player has two sets of out puts on it and I ran the kibers off of one set, and the philips cables off the other. One set is hooked into the cd input and the other is hooked into the video/aux input. I had my wife listen as I switched form one input to the other and she could tell the difference, as she did for me and I could also tell tell the difference. I have switched the cables from one set of inputs to the other, and same with the outputs just to make sure that they were not a factor. The 5.1 out put sound a little better( I have the rear, center, and sub all set to none as this is only a 2ch rig).
The only thing I have run through them so far is classical. I have always liked classical music, but with these cables I now enjoy classical music. I always though cabling would make a difference, but I am shocked at how much of a difference it could make. Now I'm not talking night and day more like dusk and day, but it is more that I though I would hear out of just some wires. For those of you who cannot hear a difference either your rig is just not enough to convey the difference, your ears just can't pick it up, the cables you are trying are of similar quality, or lastly you are just in denial.
These cables also have changed the sound stage. Before the kimbers woodwinds, and strings alway sounded as if they were placed dead center. I was listening to Tchaikovsky's Dance or the Reed Pipes, and I noticed that the woodwinds were no longer centered, they were just to the left of center, uhh maybe I'm just out of the sweet spot, wait the small strings are just right of center sweet. I could now hear even better placement to cool. On Mahlers Adagietto from sym. #5 the strings and woodwinds had traded spots. Then I can also hear layers of instruments as if one group is behind the other, and also the way the instruments are laid out side to side. I also came back to Khachaturian's Sabre Dance. It made you want to get up and run around like a mad man It just had so much energy, raw power, and then smooth and mellow.
I really like these cables, I'm going to have to hurry up and send them back before I get addicted. Oh to late. I am starting to hate HiFi, as it is going to just totally ruin my financial life, oh well it's worth it.
Thanks for the experience Carl. I really appreciate it. You will see your pbj's back around the end of the month.
Later all,
Ted
click me baby
WOW. Man I gotta buy me some $1000 dollar interconnects! If these sound this nice (I've seen them for around $75 on the net) I can only imagine what more expensive cables would do.
First thing I noticed was how much more the treble was detailed. It's almost like some one removed a light sheet from in front of my speakers. The midrange is very smooth and natural sounding. And the bass has more impact and depth. My wife could also tell the difference. My player has two sets of out puts on it and I ran the kibers off of one set, and the philips cables off the other. One set is hooked into the cd input and the other is hooked into the video/aux input. I had my wife listen as I switched form one input to the other and she could tell the difference, as she did for me and I could also tell tell the difference. I have switched the cables from one set of inputs to the other, and same with the outputs just to make sure that they were not a factor. The 5.1 out put sound a little better( I have the rear, center, and sub all set to none as this is only a 2ch rig).
The only thing I have run through them so far is classical. I have always liked classical music, but with these cables I now enjoy classical music. I always though cabling would make a difference, but I am shocked at how much of a difference it could make. Now I'm not talking night and day more like dusk and day, but it is more that I though I would hear out of just some wires. For those of you who cannot hear a difference either your rig is just not enough to convey the difference, your ears just can't pick it up, the cables you are trying are of similar quality, or lastly you are just in denial.
These cables also have changed the sound stage. Before the kimbers woodwinds, and strings alway sounded as if they were placed dead center. I was listening to Tchaikovsky's Dance or the Reed Pipes, and I noticed that the woodwinds were no longer centered, they were just to the left of center, uhh maybe I'm just out of the sweet spot, wait the small strings are just right of center sweet. I could now hear even better placement to cool. On Mahlers Adagietto from sym. #5 the strings and woodwinds had traded spots. Then I can also hear layers of instruments as if one group is behind the other, and also the way the instruments are laid out side to side. I also came back to Khachaturian's Sabre Dance. It made you want to get up and run around like a mad man It just had so much energy, raw power, and then smooth and mellow.
I really like these cables, I'm going to have to hurry up and send them back before I get addicted. Oh to late. I am starting to hate HiFi, as it is going to just totally ruin my financial life, oh well it's worth it.
Thanks for the experience Carl. I really appreciate it. You will see your pbj's back around the end of the month.
Later all,
Ted
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Good review.
What you pointed out is pretty similar to what I noticed when I went to Kimber Heros. Very small differences but tighter bass, brighter highs and a smoother midrange were definately there. I too would like to swap out all my interconnects for something better but right now I think the money is better spent elsewhere
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dudeinaroom wrote:WOW. Man I gotta buy me some $1000 dollar interconnects! If these sound this nice (I've seen them for around $75 on the net) I can only imagine what more expensive cables would do.
Nah. Just go one level up and get a hold of some Kimber Heros. They're a big leap forward from the PBJs.HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50 LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub
"God grooves with tubes." -
Take your time which is so damn hard to do. Any Kimbers are good and as others have said some are better than others. And then there are other things to consider-some prefer solid core over stranded-some prefer silver over copper. I guess it's good to live within your budget and then if you bought them at a good price, you can usually sell them and recoup most of your money when the upgrade bug hits you. just my 2 cents.
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the bug is always here, I can not shake it. The problem is fundage
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Toldja...best IC under a $100/pr.
I went from PBJ to Kimber Hero, and though I feel justified with the extra cost, the change was subtle. The Hero just gives you a little deeper/fuller bass, and slightly more neutral midrange. But I love the screw-down RCA's--those rock.Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2 -
Locking rca's are awesome. I absolutly love using them just because you know for sure they're on there tight but then when it comes to switching IC's you don't have to deal with the death grip that some have (like monster being known for actually ripping out rca jacks). I think I picked my foot and a half long hero's up for $80 locally.steveinaz wrote:But I love the screw-down RCA's--those rock.
