Power Amp Possibilities?

Early B.
Early B. Posts: 7,900
edited January 2007 in Electronics
Since I've made my last HT front speaker purchase;) , I'd like to power them with something other than the receiver. The speakers are pretty efficient -- I'm guessing at least 92 dB. Got a few questions, though:

1. One thing I noticed is that I have to turn the receiver volume up to a fairly decent level to pull the bass out of the speakers. Is this a function of the speakers, the room, or the amp not being powerful enough?

2. I'd like to get a killer, used 2-channel amp. My budget is $750 or less. By killer amp, I mean one that hits hard like a Krell or Odyssey or Parasound 1500A. What other SS amps do you recommend for this purpose?

3. Since my speakers have high sensitivity, does amp size matter? For instance, all other things being equal, will a 125 watt amp perform just as well as a 200 wpc amp? BTW -- I never play movies very loudly, so I'm wondering if I'll have more than enough headroom even with a "smaller" amp.

Thanks.
HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

"God grooves with tubes."
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,094
    edited November 2006
    Check out Audio by Van Alstine gear. I'm tickled pink with my OmegaStar 440EX. The only downside is that you hardly ever see them on the used market. Guys keep them forever in their systems. They really are that good!!

    http://www.avahifi.com/
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
  • haimoc
    haimoc Posts: 1,031
    edited November 2006
    I would try Rotel 1080 amp. It is around $600-$700 on the 'Gon.
  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited November 2006
    Early B. wrote:
    Since I've made my last HT front speaker purchase;) , I'd like to power them with something other than the receiver. The speakers are pretty efficient -- I'm guessing at least 92 dB. Got a few questions, though:

    1. One thing I noticed is that I have to turn the receiver volume up to a fairly decent level to pull the bass out of the speakers. Is this a function of the speakers, the room, or the amp not being powerful enough?

    2. I'd like to get a killer, used 2-channel amp. My budget is $750 or less. By killer amp, I mean one that hits hard like a Krell or Odyssey or Parasound 1500A. What other SS amps do you recommend for this purpose?

    3. Since my speakers have high sensitivity, does amp size matter? For instance, all other things being equal, will a 125 watt amp perform just as well as a 200 wpc amp? BTW -- I never play movies very loudly, so I'm wondering if I'll have more than enough headroom even with a "smaller" amp.

    Thanks.
    Hey Early,Happy Thanksgiving! Upscale Audio has a very nice used 200 wpc Anthem Amp 2 SS/Tube Hybrid power amplifier sporting some sweet Amperex bugle boys for the paltry sum of $795.00. it's slightly over your budget but not by much. if i were in the market for a power amplifier i would probably buy it for myself! i am of the opinion that it is always good to have plenty of power in reserve just in case you need it :D . good luck....WCW III :)
    Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
    .Audience AU24SE speaker and ic cables- Chord Qutest DAC - Black Cat Silverstar II 75ohm digital cable-Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature system with large bass cabinets to accommodate 10" Seas magnesium woofers.2xhmpsuownoj.jpg
  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited November 2006
    keep an eye out for used Carver too, lots of good power for the money. there are some Carver haters here that would disagree.

    dont know much about those speakers, but though they are efficient, that alot of radiating surface, hence I cant see extra power going to too much waste.
    Living Room 2 Channel -
    Schiit SYS Passive Pre. Jolida CD player. Songbird streamer. California Audio Labs Sigma II DAC, DIY 300as1/a1 Ice modules Class D amp. LSi15 with MM842 woofer upgrade, Nordost Blue Heaven and Unity interconnects.

    Upstairs 2 Channel Rig -
    Prometheus Ref. TVC passive pre, SAE A-205 Amp, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E50 DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Von Schweikert VR3.5 speakers.

    Studio Rig - Scarlett 18i20(Gen3) DAW, Mac Mini, Aiyma A07 Max (BridgedX2), Totem Mites
  • GATOR3000
    GATOR3000 Posts: 355
    edited November 2006
    Hi guys,

    Don't know if this is the right place to post this, if not I apologize.

    I’m in the market to buy a CD player. Looking for “Original CD-A8T" tube CD player or “Jolida JD100" tube CD player.

    Do you know of any good US web sites where I can order these CD players from? I’m looking for lowest/resonable price as have to pay duty for these units.

    Also, I would consider used Jolida JD100 CD player in mint condition.

    Thanks for your help.

    Cheers

    Gator :):)
    Theatre System 5.1
    Sumsung HP-S5053 plasma
    Receiver Denon AVR 3806 Pre/Pro
    Parasound HCA 1500A amp (front L/R)
    Parasound HCA 1000A amp (centre)
    B & K AV5000 amp (bi-amp + surround)
    Dynaco ST70 tube amp (Herbie HAL-O9)
    polkaudio Lsi15 (Cherry) 2-channel
    polkaudio Rti8 Front (Cherry)
    polkaudio Csi5 Centre
    polkaudio Rti6 Surround
    polkaudio PSW1000 Subwoofer (Cherry)
    Original A8T CD
    Pioneer DV-275 DVD Player
    MONSTER CABLE MP-HTS3500MKII Powercentre
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited November 2006
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
  • GATOR3000
    GATOR3000 Posts: 355
    edited November 2006
    cfrizz wrote:

    Now that is a nice amplifier. You had one Cathy right? Early you would like this amp for sure.

    Gator :):)
    Theatre System 5.1
    Sumsung HP-S5053 plasma
    Receiver Denon AVR 3806 Pre/Pro
    Parasound HCA 1500A amp (front L/R)
    Parasound HCA 1000A amp (centre)
    B & K AV5000 amp (bi-amp + surround)
    Dynaco ST70 tube amp (Herbie HAL-O9)
    polkaudio Lsi15 (Cherry) 2-channel
    polkaudio Rti8 Front (Cherry)
    polkaudio Csi5 Centre
    polkaudio Rti6 Surround
    polkaudio PSW1000 Subwoofer (Cherry)
    Original A8T CD
    Pioneer DV-275 DVD Player
    MONSTER CABLE MP-HTS3500MKII Powercentre
  • GATOR3000
    GATOR3000 Posts: 355
    edited November 2006
    GATOR3000 wrote:
    Hi guys,

    Don't know if this is the right place to post this, if not I apologize.

    I’m in the market to buy a CD player. Looking for “Original CD-A8T" tube CD player or “Jolida JD100" tube CD player.

    Do you know of any good US web sites where I can order these CD players from? I’m looking for lowest/resonable price as have to pay duty for these units.

    Also, I would consider used Jolida JD100 CD player in mint condition.

    Thanks for your help.

    Cheers

    Gator :):)

    So sorry I have posted this message in your on going thread. Don't know what happened. My mistake guys.

    Thanks
    Theatre System 5.1
    Sumsung HP-S5053 plasma
    Receiver Denon AVR 3806 Pre/Pro
    Parasound HCA 1500A amp (front L/R)
    Parasound HCA 1000A amp (centre)
    B & K AV5000 amp (bi-amp + surround)
    Dynaco ST70 tube amp (Herbie HAL-O9)
    polkaudio Lsi15 (Cherry) 2-channel
    polkaudio Rti8 Front (Cherry)
    polkaudio Csi5 Centre
    polkaudio Rti6 Surround
    polkaudio PSW1000 Subwoofer (Cherry)
    Original A8T CD
    Pioneer DV-275 DVD Player
    MONSTER CABLE MP-HTS3500MKII Powercentre
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited November 2006
    Yup! My brother is taking it home with him in a couple of days!:)
    GATOR3000 wrote:
    Now that is a nice amplifier. You had one Cathy right? Early you would like this amp for sure.

    Gator :):)
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited November 2006
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited November 2006
    cfrizz wrote:
    Yup! My brother is taking it home with him in a couple of days!:)

    How would you compare or characterize the differences between the Parasound & the Sunfire CGSig you have now ?
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited November 2006
    I can't PW! Both drive my speakers with ease, and both give them great clarity. Both make sure I get every ounce of bass out of the drivers that is there to give, & give me a wonderful room filling sound when I want them to. And when I decide to play them softly at 6:30AM I can still hear every note & every instrument playing!

    This is precisely what both amps are supposed to do & both do it extremely well!
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited November 2006
    I would agree regarding what amps should do and am very familiar with the Sunfire's ...
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited November 2006
    So I see Rick! Nice system!!!
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited November 2006
    Zero wrote:
    This one is incredibly easy. Marsh A200S

    120 wpc with tons of dynamic headroom using some of the fastest capacitors in the industry (Richard Marsh was the pioneer of using hi-fi caps in the amp circuit). The sound is on the warm side of neutral and has exceptional bass that is not only deep and quick, but pretty darned tuneful also.

    Averages between $500-800 used. Many people have chosen this amp over many exotic amplifiers out there (Plinius SA-150, NuForce 9.02's, Parasound Halo JC-1's). You get the idea.

    Looks good, runs luke-warm, very solid build. As always, I encourage anyone to try as much as possible. Its more fun that way - and you just may learn somethin! But given the criteria, this amp gets my vote.

    Took your advice, Zero, and bagged a Marsh A200. It should arrive in a few days.

    I hope you're right about this one. If not, I have a gift wrapped can of wupass to give you...:eek:
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
  • Blownrx7
    Blownrx7 Posts: 137
    edited November 2006
    Zero,
    I'm pretty sure you are safe;)
    From some of the comments I've read about the MArsh, it is a very nice amp!
    Early B.
    Please post a review and comparison once you get settled in with it.
    Thanks
  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited January 2007
    After living with the Marsh A200S for a while, I don't recall giving you guys my impression of it. I think the reason is because I don't quite know what to say about it.

    Let me say, though, that I am extremely happy with it. The Marsh sounds similar to the Jolida tube amp I used to own, which is surprising for a SS amp. It has fantastic detail and control. The thing that attracted me to tube gear was the emotionally involving and lush sound, lack of harshness (even at high volumes), incredible mid-range, and notes that appear to float in the air. Well, I'm hearing all of that stuff with the Marsh.

    Here's what I don't know -- how it sounds compared to other amps. Sure, I've had several other SS amps such as Odyssey, Parasound, Rotal, Outlaw, etc., but that was two years ago with an entirely different setup. Without conducting A/B tests, I cannot make any definitive statements about how the Marsh sounds compared to those amps. At some point I'd like to make some comparisions just for the fun of it.

    Hope this helps.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."