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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited November 2006
    Congrats Harold! Welcome to Club Polk!
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited November 2006
    Nice!! I have last years model 74 and was pretty happy with it paired with the 8's. Enjoy, that is one heck of a receiver for the money.
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited November 2006
    Good buy. Glad your happy with it.
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited November 2006
    Good deal! Glad you got something you can enjoy.
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • Zoom E
    Zoom E Posts: 14
    edited November 2006
    zombie boy 2000 wrote:
    Well.. keep in mind that Yamaha is probably the worst possible choice you could make if you're looking to "warm up" the Rti8's. But they're your ears, so good luck and happy listening at Tweeters!

    I just bought the Yamaha RXV659, and it sounds wonderful paired with my RTi8s. A huge improvement over my 16 year old Sony STRAV920.:rolleyes: I checked out the HK635 also, and while it did have a richer sound, it was a bit pricey.
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited November 2006
    Yamaha makes a good product but they have a bright sound to them.
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited November 2006
    Starting with the RXV1400/HTR5790 series they toned down the brightness. I have a HTR5660 in a bedroom system and the amplifier section in it is very bright. The HTR5790 I have for the main HT system has a much nicer sound, and the preamp/decoder section seems pretty decent. I use all external power amps, which coupled with the preamp/decoder section in the 5790 works pretty well.
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
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  • Dannieboiz
    Dannieboiz Posts: 242
    edited February 2007
    sorry to bring back such an old thread, but I would like an updated review of this reciever after your 3 months of owning them..

    Would anyone trade a Denon AVR 3802 for the VSX-81TXV???
    Sammy UN55C6400
    Onkyo TX-SR875
    Def Tech: Mythos One, Three, Six
    Velodyne DPS-12
    MartinLogan Dynamo 10
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited February 2007
    Hi Dannie. Seeing as I have a 3802, unless I wanted all the newer extra bells & whistles which I probably wouldn't use anyway the answer for me would be no. If you can utilize the HDMI & whatnot then go for it.
    Dannieboiz wrote:
    sorry to bring back such an old thread, but I would like an updated review of this reciever after your 3 months of owning them..

    Would anyone trade a Denon AVR 3802 for the VSX-81TXV???
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • Dannieboiz
    Dannieboiz Posts: 242
    edited February 2007
    the only reason I'd consider is the HDMI... don't think there are any Denon AVR that's <$500 with HDMI upconverting.
    Sammy UN55C6400
    Onkyo TX-SR875
    Def Tech: Mythos One, Three, Six
    Velodyne DPS-12
    MartinLogan Dynamo 10
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  • Deadof_knight
    Deadof_knight Posts: 980
    edited February 2007
    The H/Ks are a real good deal ...Im a Denon man myself but no.2 would be H/K


    Ive heard several Yamahas and ...youve read it already no need to repeat it.
    :cool: " He who dies with the most equipment wins Right ? "

    Denon 3300 Adcom 535 BBe w/sub out 1 pr 4.6s 2 pr of 4 jrs Recent additions Samsung Lns-4095D LCD, Samsung hd-960 DVD, Monster HT-5000 Power center    ,HPSA-1000 18" sealed DiY home sub.:D
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited February 2007
    just went through the same experience youre going through with an upgrade for the bedroom. Sony STRDG 1000, HDMIs and everything else you need. I like mine and Im on driving a pair of Rti4s in a 2 channel setup
    Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!

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  • TN_Polk_Lover
    TN_Polk_Lover Posts: 243
    edited February 2007
    MSALLA wrote:
    I like Yamaha and own Yamaha, but if you want to warm up your Rti-8's stay with Denon or H/K. The Yamaha's run alittle brighter then some. If you can move up to the 1000.00 to 1200.00 range you will have alot more to choose from.
    Listen to the Yamaha, don't take my word for it, but from my experiance this is how I feel.
    I have an older Yamaha receiver in my 2-channel system in the living room. It is connected to Polk RTi38's on Sanus Natural Foundations stands. This puts the tweeters at 34" from the carpeted floor. The LR is fully carpeted with heavy weight carpet and there is a large sofa and love seat fairly close to the system. I've always played these speakers with this receiver, I've never compared it to anything else. To me, this system sounds very, very good. Is it bright? well I don't know. Maybe I prefer bright?

    I remember from previous threads years ago that Mantis agrees with what others have said here. I remember him telling me one time that Yami's sound bright with the Polk RTi series and the Denons sound less bright. If I remember correctly, he works for Tweeter and has a lot of first hand experience with this.

    But I do have a question, if anyone knows. Have all Yamaha's always had a bright signature, or just the more recent HT receivers? In other words, does my older R9 have a reputation for being bright? Also, does the same apply to older Yamaha 2 channel amps? I have a Yamaha MX600U amp powering my RTi70 towers in my listening room / office. BROG (Bonus Room over Garage).
    I'm driving the Yami amp with the pre-outs from my new Denon 3806 HT receiver.
    Robert
    zombie boy 2000 wrote:
    You are officially in the high-end of the deep-end of the top-end.

    Bonus Room Over Garage:
    Toshiba 27" CRT TV
    Digital Source: Sony DVP-NS3100ES
    DVR: Panasonic DMR-ES15
    Denon 3806 AV Receiver
    - L/R Preamp out to Parasound HCA-1200 Amp
    Polk RTi70's, CSi40 Center, RTi38 Side Surrounds, RTi38 Back Surrounds

    Living Room: (2ch only)
    TV: Sony KV20-FV12
    DVD Player: Sony DVP-NS715P
    Yamaha R9 Receiver Polk RTi38's
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited February 2007
    I have a Yamaha 2 channel receiver from 1981 and it's not as bright as my 2500. It's been packed away and I can't remember the model.
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
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  • Joco1114
    Joco1114 Posts: 2
    edited February 2007
    Hi,

    I would like to buy a polk set. (RTi10, Fx3, PSW505, CSi3) But I cant decide about the AV receiver. There are 3 possibilities: Denon 2807, Pioneer AX2AS and Marantz SR7001. I heard all with other speakers, all was nice, but I cant decide.

    Can you help me?

    Joc
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited February 2007
    Joco1114 wrote:
    Hi,

    I would like to buy a polk set. (RTi10, Fx3, PSW505, CSi3) But I cant decide about the AV receiver. There are 3 possibilities: Denon 2807, Pioneer AX2AS and Marantz SR7001. I heard all with other speakers, all was nice, but I cant decide.

    Can you help me?

    Joc

    Denon is always a safe choice.
    Michael


    Samsung 50" HD DLP
    Yamaha RX-V2500
    (2) Outlaw 200
    Adcom GFA 555
    Sony BDP300
    Denon 2900 DVD
    Lsi9's mains
    Lsi7's rear
    Lsic center
    12.1 SVS driver in 4.53 cuft. tube
    Harmony 880
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  • Joco1114
    Joco1114 Posts: 2
    edited February 2007
    Any other opinion?

    A Yamaha V2700 for example?

    Joc
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  • johnADA
    johnADA Posts: 98
    edited February 2007
    DAC types will give a receiver its sonic signature. But not all of it.
    But your warm, bright type characteristics are from the amp section.

    Let me use a analogy that I understand to explain this.
    Automotive is a big hobby to me and engines are built for different purposes to achieve and end resullt for what type of racing their in.
    Horsepower and Torque is a measurement used when building power in and engine.
    You can have all the horsepower in the world, but the vehicle will be slow to get moving. On the other hand you could have all the torque in the world, it'll move much easier, but not with great speed. In drag racing, since its short and sweet and ET's are wanted you want high H.P. and high torque outputs, but in circle track racing over distance, torque numbers are lower and H.P. number are greater, ratio changes.

    Same applies to amp sections. To make low frequency tones you need alot of torque and amp that doesnt fade away, if it does fade away the system goes bright since high frequency tones dont take much power to produce.

    Everyday name brands, Sony, Pioneer, Yamaha and more offer H.P., same 100watts RMS, but no torque. Onkyo, Denon and others better torque at the same RMS rating. Onkyo's, Denons upper lineups along with H/K's offer even more torque equaling the warmer sound you hear.

    Thats why separate amps are gone to for some. Their job is just amping, nothing else so they "should" offer the best torque.

    If you dont understand auto engines, this is over your head, but thats how and analogy was offered to me since my best knowledgeable hobby is drag racing.
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  • G-2
    G-2 Posts: 533
    edited February 2007
    Thanks for the Great Analogy, sure helps us! We wanted to mention Integra as we've been super pleased with ours.
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  • LuSh
    LuSh Posts: 887
    edited February 2007
    John,

    The brightness of an amplifier can't be rooted back to the current draw. If this was true amp's such as krell and bryston would be considered warm. With the exception of Krell's older Class A amp's I don't think anybody would consider Krell warm. The torque vs horsepower is a decent analogy however.
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